I'll be the first " Trump for President" Lets get someone who can make decisions with clarity . I'll even say the right decisions. A leader. I so desperately want to hear OBAMA (your)...you're "FIRED" B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day
City considers circumcision ban ---Good'ol SF, Ca. I doubt it would ever pass but it is an example of some people trying to control the behaviors of others and using the gov't gun to the head to enforce it. Lanny
---“Atlas Shrugged†is about those who would penalize individual achievement and subsidize “the collective.†It is the embodiment of Karl Marx’s philosophy, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.†To put it another way, the collective believes that if you earn $2 dollars and I make $1 dollar, you owe me 50 cents to make things “fair.†This is redistributionist or, to paraphrase the president, “spreading the wealth around.â€---Cal Thomas ---The definition of "Marxism" is different in the minds of many. And our current system is a hodge podge of free market capitalism, crony capitalism & marxism, socialism, collectivism etc. ---The country is moving by small increments toward ever increasing gov't control. The Patriot act if people actually knew what it contained is just a Stalinist power grab. ---Property rights are taken for granted. Yet, little by little you are stripped of what you can do on your property. I have just given up battling my local city over building a simple pole building. You would think I was installing a nuclear power station. So, I own the land but can do nothing except use what is already there. I cannot improve it or build to fit my own needs. ---Here is a true story of our local (Seattle) gov't power. A person owned 10 acres where they were growing trees and other things. They decided to build some catch basins to recycle rain water for irrigation. (I hear it rains in Seattle) Guess what? That is illegal!!! Yup! You see it turns out that the gov't owns the rain and it is illegal to divert it from its natural course. Now lots of people have rain barrels but the gov't doesn't enforce the law on such snall potatoes. But somebody trying to recycle rain on a larger scale was fined $10,000 if memory serves me.
Lanny
---“Atlas Shrugged†is about those who would penalize individual achievement and subsidize “the collective.†It is the embodiment of Karl Marx’s philosophy, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.†To put it another way, the collective believes that if you earn $2 dollars and I make $1 dollar, you owe me 50 cents to make things “fair.†This is redistributionist or, to paraphrase the president, “spreading the wealth around.â€---Cal Thomas ---The definition of "Marxism" is different in the minds of many. And our current system is a hodge podge of free market capitalism, crony capitalism & marxism, socialism, collectivism etc. ---The country is moving by small increments toward ever increasing gov't control. The Patriot act if people actually knew what it contained is just a Stalinist power grab. ---Property rights are taken for granted. Yet, little by little you are stripped of what you can do on your property. I have just given up battling my local city over building a simple pole building. You would think I was installing a nuclear power station. So, I own the land but can do nothing except use what is already there. I cannot improve it or build to fit my own needs. ---Here is a true story of our local (Seattle) gov't power. A person owned 10 acres where they were growing trees and other things. They decided to build some catch basins to recycle rain water for irrigation. (I hear it rains in Seattle) Guess what? That is illegal!!! Yup! You see it turns out that the gov't owns the rain and it is illegal to divert it from its natural course. Now lots of people have rain barrels but the gov't doesn't enforce the law on such snall potatoes. But somebody trying to recycle rain on a larger scale was fined $10,000 if memory serves me.
Lanny
Alba Said: They owed billions to their investors too. According to bankruptcy laws, there is a pecking order in who gets paid and who gets screwed. The government forced GM to screw their investors and hand over the goods to the unions.Marxism in disguise According to bankruptcy laws which have been in effect long before Obama was even born the employees are taken care of first.The bondholders and other creditors second.The shareholders get nothing or next to nothing.
Ostrich alert!
They owed billions to their investors too. According to bankruptcy laws, there is a pecking order in who gets paid and who gets screwed. The government forced GM to screw their investors and hand over the goods to the unions.
Marxism in disguise" According to bankruptcy laws which have been in effect long before Obama was even born the employees are taken care of first.The bondholders and other creditors second.The shareholders get nothing or next to nothing.
Alba Said: The auto companies were bankrupted because the credit spout was turned off. There was/is collusion and the end result was that the government handed over the majority stake to the union, bypassing private investment money Its not quite like that.GM,Chrysler etc owed unions billions of dollars on health benefits pension plans etc.They were given a stake in the company in exchange for reduced contrbutions.
They owed billions to their investors too. According to bankruptcy laws, there is a pecking order in who gets paid and who gets screwed. The government forced GM to screw their investors and hand over the goods to the unions.
Marxism in disguise?
You can't believe everything that you read in the newspapers or internet but here's something worth thinking about. I believe that his Marxist leanings would reveal themselves quite clearly if he were to release some of the things that he's hiding.
"....As WND has reported, besides Obama's actual birth documentation, the president has refused to release his Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records...."
Isn't it curious that he would be so secretive of his past writings and associations? If you've got nothing to hide, you don't have to hide anything.
So much for "transparency". The guy learned a lot from Teflon Bill.
The auto companies were bankrupted because the credit spout was turned off. There was/is collusion and the end result was that the government handed over the majority stake to the union, bypassing private investment money" It's not quite like that.GM,Chrysler etc owed unions billions of dollars on health benefits pension plans etc.They were given a stake in the company in exchange for reduced contrbutions.
Alba Said: If the banks and auto companies were profitable and taken over by the government you may have a case of socialism.those were ailing companies which the government tried to save.The government is intent on selling its stake on those companies once the turnaround is over.trying to salvage the capitalism doesnt classiffy as marxsism.
The auto companies were bankrupted because the credit spout was turned off. There was/is collusion and the end result was that the government handed over the majority stake to the union, bypassing private investment money.
If the government wanted to "help save capitalism" they could have loaned the ailing auto firms money without the Marxism elements.
Ford Motor had recognized the problems associated with their pension promise years earlier. They took hard steps years earlier. They were perfectly positioned to weather the credit freeze and bob to the surface when the other firms went belly up.
Why would our politicians pick sides in a situation like that and prop up losers? The only reason was to hand over as much industry to the unions as they could.
It was a significant illegal act that is blatantly Marxist. Just another bite of the elephant.
Do you think the unions deserved to be handed over the shares?
If the banks and auto companies were profitable and taken over by the government you may have a case of socialism.those were ailing companies which the government tried to save.The government is intent on selling its stake on those companies once the turnaround is over.trying to salvage the capitalism doesn't classiffy as marxsism.
Alba you asked "es, certain rights like wire tapping are government intrusion into your freedom, and yes it’s wrong, as is spending a fortune on illegal wars. Where was all this outrage when Bush was waging his war on the American people?"
The outrage was everywhere and the voters embraced a man named Obama that promised to overturn wrong perpetrated by the Gestapo like Patriot act. Now, since he's changed nothing and extended the Patriot Act, we are again outraged, properly, at another president. Remember the slogan "Hope and Change"? Well we hoped for change, but now the reality has prevailed.
Alba, I would agree that "left wing does not equal marxism". That might be true but Obama is clearly a marxist.
Go investigate his college associations. Ask him to let you read his college papers.
Alba, we are rapidly losing our state and national borders.
When the central government can extend their reach from DC into our local private business, it is another small bite of the elephant.
Should DC tell me that I have to purchase health insurance? Should they dictate how I educate my child and tell me which test they should pass?
Alba, the marxists know that they won't turn this country in one election. They know that to eat an elephant, you take only one bite at a time.
Who is Glenn Beck?
One small of a small step toward marxism would be how they handed the auto companies over to the unions. They illegally bypassed other preferred creditors. It might seem small and inconsequential to you but this is akin to taking of private property. All of this was orchestrated by Obama's czars. It happens in countries like China, Russia, Cuba, etc but it should not happen in the USA.
