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March 4, 2012 at 8:16 p.m.

Old School

We are working on a large old train station, replacing the damaged tile roof. Over the main entrance, there is a lot of rotted decking that has extended down to the exposed rafters that we have torn out and need to replace. Before it can be replaced however, we have to re-make everything from the beaded decking to all of the fancy shaped rafters. I love to do this kind of thing as it separates us from your run of the mill roofers. We are union carpenters you know.

It helps to have the tools and a shop to work in.

https://picasaweb.google.com/crookston.john4/ShopWork?authkey=Gv1sRgCMPqiL7tuZCGFA#5716224028367176802

March 24, 2012 at 7:32 p.m.

Old School

This is the first couple of days on the same area. It should make sense now.

https://picasaweb.google.com/crookston.john4/ShopWorkAtHome?authkey=Gv1sRgCM6qiZWp36b8WA#5723605629056141938

March 24, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.

Old School

This is backwards, but I copied these to Picasa first. The second half of the tear off from hell for us.

https://picasaweb.google.com/crookston.john4/TheTearOffFromHell?authkey=Gv1sRgCJykleirjtyz4AE#5723610593087839394

March 19, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.

tinner666

Thanks for the background info. It makes it easier to understand some details. :)

March 19, 2012 at 5:49 p.m.

Old School

That is an "Old School" spec. Negociated work mostly and they trust me and stay out of my way. I on the other hand, get them involved and take a lot of pictures to document everyting we are doing. We are drying it in every night and covering the whole deck with the HT. The Titanium is mostly for a slip sheet for the tile, and it also gives some protection.

We are going to integrate a ventilation system into the whole job too to get the air moving in the attic. They have had a lot of problems with ice falling from above and breaking tiles and damaging the deck. If we can keep it as snow, there will be a lot less problems. It will make it better in the summer too. They redid the building about 20 years ago and they insulated and trapped a lot of moisture and heat in the envelope of the building. We will fix it right. More pictures to come as we progress. A case study for sure.

Hey, the "Old School" Tile school

March 18, 2012 at 10:25 p.m.

tinner666

Lots of storm watch on that thing. Any chance of sealing moisture in? It looks good enough that felt would have been ok for most of it. Did somebody in Gov spec it?

March 17, 2012 at 9:49 p.m.

Old School

Naw, we drill a hole and use a lead expansion anchor. Lots of lead expansion anchors. There are two dome roofs we have to tile plus the round canopy roof on the front of the building. Over 400 feet of the stepped counter-flashing on that puppy. It is going to take a bit of time to do it right. That is why they call me "Old School" though. It will be sweet when we are finished.

As far as the site knowing you, I have no idea. These computers know about everything.

March 17, 2012 at 8:10 a.m.

wywoody

I liiked through the pics OS, nice. What do you use to attach the step flashing to the brick, a powder actuated tool?

Also, your photo album knew my name, that's kind of creepy. Maybe it has something to do with Google+.

March 14, 2012 at 9:04 p.m.

Old School

Rocky, it is in Battle Creek Michigan. An old Train Station when everyone used to ride the trains.

Pictures! Man do I have pictures. I have to document everything and the guy likes me to Email them to him so he can let the board of directors know what is going on. You have seen some of the ones I took from this sping. We will be hitting it hard about the first of April. This is what we have done so far.

https://picasaweb.google.com/crookston.john4/BCStation?authkey=Gv1sRgCImD5aX55fS8AQ#

March 14, 2012 at 7:20 p.m.

Rockydog

OS, what part of town is this project in. Looks like a job you can be proud of and use for refernces. Id like to see some pictures as you progress.

March 8, 2012 at 9:10 p.m.

Old School

Hey, we bought four pallets of HT for the job. I haven't noticed any problems with the tile wearing out anywhere and we are not to the point where we are going to tear off any more of the tiles on the round part yet. I will let you know when we get it apart. I don't think so though because it is expose beneath that area and ther is no evidence of leakage.

I still wonder how they did it over 100 years ago on that building. Everything is massive and detailed. I will post more pictures as we go along.

March 8, 2012 at 9:06 p.m.

Old School

Hey, we bought four pallets of HT for the job. I haven't noticed any problems with the tile wearing out anywhere and we are not to the point where we are going to tear off any more of the tiles on the round part yet. I will let you know when we get it apart. I don't think so though because it is expose beneath that area and ther is no evidence of leakage.

I still wonder how they did it over 100 years ago on that building. Everything is massive and detailed. I will post more pictures as we go along.

March 8, 2012 at 7:43 a.m.

wywoody

OS, you are using my preferred underlayment upgrade, except that the Titanium would be 30. Unforunately, the Winterguard HT is only available to me if I have a project requiring a whole pallet of it. My suppliers won't stock it, They think their warehouse personel are too stupid to tell the difference between Winterguard HT and the much cheaper Winterguard.

I noticed above the round roof, there are scupper extensions that allow the water to drop 3' before splashing on the tile. Did you see any evidence that was contributing to the leakage? Was the tile below them worn more than the other tile? When you get a splash factor added in, I've seen problems in the past.

March 7, 2012 at 8:35 p.m.

tinner666

Some nice looking work there! :) I like the plank work too. Seems folks don't know what boards are any more.

March 7, 2012 at 8:07 p.m.

Old School

We worked yesterday and today and got as far as we could. It is coming along. I need to get more of the cedar beams in to mill down for rafters.

https://picasaweb.google.com/crookston.john4/ShopWork?authkey=Gv1sRgCMPqiL7tuZCGFA#

March 6, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.

Old School

Woody, get one of the saw blades made for it. It is dusty for sure, but it cuts like butter. A carbide blade will just burn up and it cuts hard too.

We finished it up today and moved to the opposite side. Shoot, more bad decking over there and we haven't torn it off to see what the rafters look like underneath. It is getting to be a pain. A lot of work, but what a nice day. 67 degrees and sunny. Very windy though. it was blowing our debris around as we were tearing it off.


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