New post...the OBAMA thing

Hey....I voted for BUSH and he got a bad rep after the 911 thing. Things happen in office that is not your fault. You have to react as best as you can.

Now I voted for OBAMA and he got the credit crisis and the worst oil spill ever. Since 1996 we have been installing presidents to fix past problems and it only gets worse with each new president.

We should change our laws to allow a president to serve 4 terms until the this mess is fixed....we let FDR do it!

Give OBAMA a chance, maybe HE could solve all of our problems in 16 years.

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I'm undecided on my classification of just what Obama is. Is he just an incompetent tunnel-visioned idealist? Is he following one of the 'evil' plans put out by anarchist socialists over the years? Is he just George Soros's or Chicago dealmaker's talking pawn? Is he so enthralled with his new Cribs digs and lifestyle (movin on up.... to the) that he thinks we should all be enthralled, too?

The answer is it doesn't matter. The Dems seem to think increased spending is revenge back at the Republicans overspending?! We have no choice but to hope for split government. Republicans need to take over both houses this fall for a check on the rest of Obamatime.

The only thing Obama promissed he'd do that I wanted was he was going to accept responsibility for defeat in two wars and bring them home. Instead we're looking at Viet Nams II and III, going on forever with a Dem president.

Pray for Obama. Psalm 108:8

Obama is trying to fix the mess he inherited from the republicans.They were in power for 8 years before he took office.When Bill Clinton left office the country was in good shape.

Boy ain't that the typically pathetic liberal line. waaah waaaaah fkn waaaah........jeeeeeez

jimAKAblue Said: Im of the opinion that the Democrats are setting themselves up for another long hiatus from power. I can imagine another Ronad Reagan type campaign in 2012.

RE: Minnesotaroofin' "- I just went and looked at a 60 year old 3 ply built up rock and gravel roof ( probaly could still be maintained) but they are willing to do a coating or a new tpo/pvc -- will that go 60 years? doubt it "

It is likely the felts are asbestos on that three-ply. Several years ago I was tearing off a single ply roofing system which was also sixty-plus years old, and in remarkably good condition. It was simply a 60# base sheet applied over the 2/12 pitch sheathing, face nailed, and coated every so often with aluminum roof coating. While tearing it off, I happened upon a wrapper which said asbestos base sheet.

The homeowner was trying to determine if that was, in fact, the original roof; in which case it would have been closer to ninety years old. It was the original roof on that deck segment, which may have been a later addition to the house.

Hope he stays there, all does here is pose for photos with his buddies at BP

Obama was in Kalamazoo yesterday speaking to the high school graduating class. Lord knows how much money was spent by the city and county on protection. I am glad I was on the other side of town. the helicopters did fly right over my house though.

I don't think that I will ever understand the suppliers business approach: Keep giving credit so the guy does not buy somewhere else ? As much as we malign the Big Boxes, they leave the banking (credit risk) to someone else. Cash & Carry here Buckwheat

The local roofing & lumberyard here seem to get burned rather largely every couple of years. The roofing supply by idiots & druggies and the lumberyard by builders/ developers who, if you ask me, planned to bailout on their supplies and subs on the day they built their 1st house.

You want freedom put your cards on the table and dont be afraid to loose them - This is kinda of a stretch but i am a sole proprieter i did only 400k last year in business - the previous 2 i did over a million - now last year i saw so many companies file bankruptsy and start fresh again this year after cheating all the creditors out of their money - and ontop of it get new credit form new creditors that got bailed out by the government. Me i pay $350.00 for a llc and i can do the same? Pretty stupid not to just pay the $350.00 right? not a very smart business man am i? Well all i can say is all my cards are on the table with every job i do if something goes awry i stand to loose everything.I believe this is right there is no temtation to give up and say "it is what it is" and let go - The only temptation i have is to make it work and succeed or not and fail.

Our state made everyone become a LLC last year they seen it coming in the downturn people would have lost much more if they were not able to legally write off the debt through bankruptsy - In other words cheat your creditiors - I am financially in rough shape as well this year and i am at risk of losing some of the things i have worked so hard for it really does suck and i have been very tempted to go get llc and file for bankruptsy and start over - but everytime i talk to a creditor all i can think of is i would rather owe them the money than cheat them out of it.

I think most are just confused Obama is giving people what they want - Or dont want for that matter "personal responsibility" almost everyone here is afraid of it what will happen if they make a mistake most dont want to loose everything they have worked so hard for their entire life -- What happens if the powers that be strike down upon them bad luck or health nobody wants to loose everthing -- What happens if food, gas, clothing cost of living goes up so high no one can afford it?

We can relate this directly to our business as the latest EPA rule - A rule that was created for the welfare of all others at everyones expense everyone is to scared to fight it. if they do they may just loose their livelyhood and be unable to work. And another broader example: Roofs i agree look much prettier now a days but with all the new codes,licensing,procedures, and so called newer better materials are they really lasting longer? I would say no - I just went and looked at a 60 year old 3 ply built up rock and gravel roof ( probaly could still be maintained) but they are willing to do a coating or a new tpo/pvc -- will that go 60 years? doubt it - Did a chimney repair on a 20 year old asphalt roof 2 weeks ago - no ice shield, hand nailed, original chimney flashing 60+ years old - you think the new metal i put on will go 60+ years just cause i used some ice shield - and the funny part was the Homeowner had 25 year timberline shingles installed last time i tell you i picked up the bundle and thought it was 2 bundles per sq they were thich and the roof was still in good shape after 20 years - i ran about 6 shingles short and could tell with the new 30 year they were aout a third less thick.

Above all this when you wade through all the bs - where is the responsibilty should we look at the manufacturer and say why do you make such cheap shingles and blame them or look at ourselves and say why did we allow this to happen why did we use them - because they are less expensive.

So we should all think twice about what we are asking of our leaders -- they are giving us what we want be it Bush or Obama - we are all hipocrits to some extent this is what the world sees us as. Think about it next time you pay your comp, life, liability, health, homeowners, auto,state, federal, unemployment, insurance etc.... We are all cowards to the rest of the world because we are afraid to be personaly responsible for our actions or our fellow Americans actions.

A little speech Obama gave when running for President!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCeSvdBvBfE&feature=related

What this country needs is a political party and leaders that actually have the best interests of the country in mind. But- "This is not your fathers country".

Mike H says, "Socialism castrates the male need to provide and succeed. It cuts straight to the heart of our desire to be a provider. It has castrated every nation that tried it. It has castrated our inner cities. It's growth is castrating our entire nation." ---That is why the alcoholism among the men is so high in those countries. The pain of incompetance and hopelessness is so great that alcohol is the anesthesia of choice. ---The North American indian suffered the same fate from the gov't. They were robbed of their self worth and dignity when confined to the reservations. Alcoholism is rampant there as well. ---Men derive a great amount of self worth from their work. Men need to be productive to maintain psychological health. That is just human nature. ---In the garden of Eden God put man to work. Work is who we are. In the garden of Eden they didn't just lie around making daisy chains. They were asked to make their world a better place. Impact your world creating and maintaining beauty. There is a deep feeling of satisfaction from a job well done. Even a roof job. Lanny

How many of us has paid car insurance? Well it is the law, we have to pay it so you work your magic to make sure it gets paid every month/quarter/year. I know there is a chance you could never get a return on your insurance payments (if you don't have an accident). I have only claimed $600 in the last 20 years, but you have to do it or pay the price. I have let go of the thoughts of anger everytime I have to make a payment, now I work on ways to make more money where it doesn't affect my payment. Its called "management of finances". You put yourself in a position to PAY more...you have to MAKE more.

Now plug the word "taxes" in place of car insurance then read the paragraph one more time!

Our taxes (one way or another) are going to be raised every year, wether it be the Obama or Palin adiministration. Taxes may be cut under Palin, but she is going to get you somewhere else. It is how its done...in the end...we all pay one way or the other some more than others as it is fitting.

Just be lucky Obama is not the King of the U.S. under mid-evil times. Taxes are about taking everything that you might have of value...and you don's pay....it is the end of the world for you!