German Style, clay tile roof with counter batten, copper gutter with mountain roof hanger, copper down spouts, and torch down

Martin, is that painted lead on top of the turret trim mitres? Do you paint it onsite?

Tinner, we must be briliant!

tinner666 Said: Verified; Is that a 12ga break?

If i remember correctly it was..may have been 10ga. .before we bought it..(2005) it was used by a AC contractor. had a lil twist in it.. Thats what i was concentrating on was i had to bend to a point then flex one end with my hand. :ohmy:

Verified; Is that a 12ga break?

That's about how I figure costs too, OS. When all is said and done, from first visit, to getting the order ready, to tear-off, delivery, shop work, etc, it adds up. I figure quality of install beats speed any day. Doing whatever it takes to be correct the first time, and bidding it that way prevents shortcuts, and hasty decisions. And some of these projects may have some pita built-in for a reason too. The job in question had a consultant included in it's cost, in case nobody noticed. Fact is, in this economy, many folks are starting to appreciate quality over all other options. It's how my clients feel.

To do what he did on that job took about 25 man hours per square. 1 man hour for every 2 x 2 foot square of roof. Figure out what a man that can do that quality work is worth an hour and multiply it by 25 and taht would be your "cost" Add what you want for "profit" and overhead. If he sold it for $180,000, he did well Congratulations.

The other thing I was thinking was weight. You took off shingles and put on tile which weighs 4to5 times more. Was that considered?

Old School Said: Obviously you guys have never tried to install a clay tile roof. $18,000 would buy the trim for that project. My guess is that he had about $55,000 in materials. Those are counter-battens on the roof that allow the air to move beneath the tile. The copper work is superb.

In my opinion, a roof is worth whatever you can get for it. If you are very good and do top quality work...and you do the work and dont sub it out to every tom dick and harry.. or pablo or Raul, you have a right to show off a bit and make a ton of money. Nothing to split when you do the work yourself. Nice job Martin.

Yeah, obviously. :laugh: Only installed about 100,000 squares in a ten year period. Mostly concrete though. The most I ever got for a clay job (2 piece San Valle, red onion blend smoke pattern) was about $500. sq. labor and material. 5/12 pitch, 3 ply glass mopped underlay, anchor and wire fastened). That was probably at least 20 years ago though, so it's somewhat irrelevant to this discussion.

BTW, there's (obviously) no way you could possibly know how much this material costs without knowing the brand and source. Some clay tile is barely $100. sq for the field tile.

However, I totally agree that a roof is worth whatever you can sell it for. Especially if you are considering it in terms of longevity. I think most roofs get installed for far too little in that regard.

Robert Said: We installed those on a church in Thibodaux Louisiana about 8 years ago,siplast sent out a photoghragher to take pics and it was profiled in a magazine.The roof went straight up and then round at the top,133 squares of the tosite shingles.Thier so fragile,that copper laminate is very thin.Gustav blew about three tabs off the roof,which is good considering its a big wall facing the gulf.

We installed those on a church in Thibodaux Louisiana about 8 years ago,siplast sent out a photoghragher to take pics and it was profiled in a magazine.The roof went straight up and then round at the top,133 squares of the tosite shingles.Thier so fragile,that copper laminate is very thin.Gustav blew about three tabs off the roof,which is good considering its a big wall facing the gulf.

Here is one that I did that was up around $3,500 per sq..new construction. All custom bent flashings and DE (thats me on the brake). So $5,000 per sq is not out of the realm of possibilities.

I know that the perception of 'Old World craftsmanship' is something that people will pay a premium for. There used to be a tile manufacturer here called Permaroof that I did installation for that was owned by an English guy. Before buying the tile company the guy was a wholesale furniture salesman and knew nothing about roofing. But customers would talk to him on the phone and just from his accent assume that he had trained all the roofers the European way. In reality, the guy was too terrified to even climb a ladder.

Sorry this missunderstanding it was not my price !!!!! Some roofer in Boston provide this roof between 120000$ & 160000 $ O N L Y for the labor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C'man, I came up with 5k a sq as a total - (180k divided by 36), not just labor mate.