Conflicts between science and religion

minnesotaroofin Said: And what about the occaisional thoughts do they count for anything -- You see a hot chick walking down the road there you go daydreaming these thoughtsa are just as well as doing the act are they not ---- What about when someone cuts you off -- or call your wife a name - or an employee questions you personally -- These thoughts that really tee you off? Does it really make a difference to you that believe in a supernatural being that he does see these thoughts and are just like the physical act?

Why not a sin is a sin weather you kill an entire family mother fathers sion daughter -- or steal a piece of candy -- Should not one sin carry more of a disipline than the other? How does it make sence that in the end it does not --

When you are truly saved and walkin the walk He wants you too,The Lord grows you up and takes this kinda behavior away as your growing,without ya even noticin sometimes,I mean we do our part too,you see that hot lookin chick walkin by,DONT HAVE THAT 2ND LOOK,And yes sin is sin in God's eyes ,it is man who puts levels on sin,this is why He sent His Son for us,that is how much He loves us He doesnt want ANYBODY damned,but...we have freewill,which means WE need to choose..

I expect to be a worm farm next time. :)

I know where I'm going! :laugh: :cheer: :) :)

When I died on the table and and coded again and again in recovery, and again a few days later, I ddin't see any light! :laugh: Dark where I was. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

If everybody just goes to heaven when we die,answer me this,Why did Jesus have to go to the cross?

If there is a god who says these people are going to eternally rot in a hell for for being who they are -- he who which he created

They wouldnt be going to hell for who they are if they go to hell it would be for non-believe.

Someone could do this there entire life then in their last breath accept god into their heart and they are saved?

If they get the chance,what if it is a sudden death,no one knows when were gonna go,but if ya wanna take a gamble at it thats your choice...good luck on that...

I am of no denonemation either,just the simple belief in The Lord...

and if and when it is as most say on judgement day i will stand up for these people and if it is judged i go to eternal damnation with these fine catholic people i guess i will.

What makes you think you will have a say on that day?

I think that Einstein had it almost right: but it should have said E=M or matter is energy in a different form. The "big bang" was just energy transformed into matter of one sort or another. Most of matter is empty space. With that said, the "energy" still had to come from somewhere. Since it is way too big for us to get our finite minds around, I say we admit that something or someone made us and everything else around us, and we don't know where it or he or she came from. Pretty awesome though!

I am not athesiest i am of no religion -- I was raied Catholic - Went to cathlic scholl until 10 with my real father Grandparents -- Then at 15 My mother Pentecostal i moved back in with her and was baptised and the whole nine yards in name of Jesus Christ for the remission of my sins -- at 18 My mother re - married My current Step Father who is now a pastor of echoes of calvay pentecostal church - He had been a member of the church - I did switch between my Father and mother quite a bit from cathlic to pentecostal -- I thought and believed Pentecostal was the real deal and i still do find most of the beliefs to be true -- When i would stand there and look at someone speaking in tongues is this real how are they doing it? It is as real to them as anything ---- and i have personally felt the power -- Like i said thousands of times i do believe in God just not as a physical supernatural living being- I also do not believe all catholics should go to eternal damnation for their belief - and if and when it is as most say on judgement day i will stand up for these people and if it is judged i go to eternal damnation with these fine catholic people i guess i will. But i really do not see it that way.

I know plenty of kind careing ethical people who would not harm a fly and bend over backwards for just about anyone -- i consider these people good people and are good friends -- some of them do not believe in god or religion some believe they just die and cease to exist --

If there is a god who says these people are going to eternally rot in a hell for for being who they are -- he who which he created -- I guess i would prefer to hang out with my friends and stick by these people on judgement day in the belief and stand up for what i believe these people non believers in front of god and ask why? what did they do that was any worse than that guy over there who killed thousands up til his last breath? And if your going to send my friend to hell the one that would not harm a fly - and let that murdering basterard into heaven i will go with my friend.

What i am saying is you can draw a line between the 2 to connect them -- science and religion are the same

And what about the occaisional thoughts do they count for anything -- You see a hot chick walking down the road there you go daydreaming these thoughtsa are just as well as doing the act are they not ---- What about when someone cuts you off -- or call your wife a name - or an employee questions you personally -- These thoughts that really tee you off? Does it really make a difference to you that believe in a supernatural being that he does see these thoughts and are just like the physical act?

Why not a sin is a sin weather you kill an entire family mother fathers sion daughter -- or steal a piece of candy -- Should not one sin carry more of a disipline than the other? How does it make sence that in the end it does not --

"good believer can kill/rob/rape/ six days a week, confess or otherwise absolve himself and put those sins in his past, and start all over again next week"

not that you need to take it to this extent but how does this make sence? Someone could do this there entire life then in their last breath accept god into their heart and they are saved?

What about the guy that lives his life honestly, compassionately, and truthfully? Lieing on his death bed thinking whats next is there a god? what if i just die? oh well i lived a good life i guess i will find out soon. Does someone like this really go to eternal damnation? and for what? and how does this actually make sence to anyone?

God created science,co-exsist where does that come from??

I have always resolved any conflicts between science and religion they can and do co - exist -- I can and have read the bible and been able to make a path that fits both without either being wrong. I do believe in god -- now this god may be just part of -- or the substance Egg was refferring to.

Other than that -- After reading many posts of Eggs in the past i have not found 1 thing i have ever disagreed with -- Maybee he can put it better at what god is and why we are here?

How bout it Egg?

"Where are our good Atheist"s on this topic ???" Whatcha need me for??????

Ok Ciak, The rule thing,I'll start off by saying when God gave us the 10 Commandments,count that only 10 well religion of Jesus's day and before added 300 and something more for starters hence not God,man,and this still goes on today in 'religion',The Commands are there so we can see whats right and wrong its not enforced upon us,in the bible it says if were gonna follow all the comandments we have to follow everyone of them if we break one we've broken them all,well no human can do this,that is why Jesus was sent for us to take the sins of man upon Himself to the cross,God doesnt want ya for rules and regulations He wants you the way you are,whatever way you are,He'll do the rest if ya let Him,Galations 2:19-21"For through the law I died to the law,so that i might live to God.I have been crucified with Christ.It is no longer I who live,but Christ who lives in me.And the life i now live in the flesh i live by faith in the Son of God,who loved me and gave Himself for me.I do not nullify the grace of God,for if righteousness were through the law,then Christ died for no purpose."

What is God? if your looking for a image,there isnt one,hence commandment#4,but the best way to say what He is would be- God is patient and kind,God does not envy or boast,He is not arrogant or rude.He does not insist on His own way,He is not irritable or resentful,He does not rejoice at wrong doing,but rejoices with the truth.He bears all things,believes all things, hopes all things,endures all things.He is your comforter,strenght,courage,He is your Father who doesnt want nothing but the best for ya.

Why is there so much pain and suffering? Because we have freewill,there is consequences to what we do,good or bad.

Woody...lol...if God has no humor that would make humor our only original contribution to this world. Not a bad thought actually. Along with singing, dancing, exploring, and nailing on shingles straight, we may have a legitimate purpose here after all.