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November 13, 2016 at 10:57 p.m.

Alba

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

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During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages.

November 13, 2016 at 1:15 p.m.

egg

Glad to hear that, Mike and thank you. One thing we do not still have in common is the joy of being able to talk to a living father. I do talk to mine a lot, even though he can't sit with me in the flesh, I take care of him in my mind the way he took care of me growing up. I set a place for him in this world of current events which he took so much passionate interest in. Not the same, but it's ok. I know you will appreciate every minute you guys have for as long as it's there. Give him my regards.

November 13, 2016 at 1:05 p.m.

twill59

TomB Said: AAAhhh....The internet......That makes it all valid...LOFL

Or.....YOU can go buy a printed version of the same documents. it's YOUR money. Ask me if I care B)

AMifIGAF

It's like 30 year old news TomB....duh ...before the internet even

November 13, 2016 at 12:59 a.m.

Mike H

I wasn't going to log on tonight, but couldn't let egg continue to think...... let me rephrase something.... my dad IS a big trump fan . And doing very well, all things considered .

I appreciate your kind and thoughtful words Eric . The feelings are quite mutual . We have much more in common than we don't .

November 12, 2016 at 11:03 p.m.

TomB

AAAhhh...."The internet"......That makes it all valid...LOFL

November 12, 2016 at 6:28 p.m.

twill59

I've also heard it calculated that if The Donald would have taken his inheritance and put it in the stock market, in a low risk, low cost fund that matches the market, he would have more money than he has made in his businesses.

None of this is new or uncommon knowledge TomB

November 12, 2016 at 5:22 p.m.

Alba

investors in his companies lost their shirt because the stock and the bonds became worthless while he reaped tens of millions of $$ as a CEO .trump university is a fraud .people hope his business acumen will change Washington.the American people were duped by a con man .a snake oil salesman and have become the laughing stock of the world.the good news is that 4 years will go by fast.

November 12, 2016 at 4:12 p.m.

twill59

TomB Said: Wheres this info/data that Trump stiffed someone - and hiring illegals?

The internet

November 12, 2016 at 2:47 p.m.

TomB

Where's this info/data that Trump stiffed someone - and hiring illegals?

November 12, 2016 at 9:15 a.m.

twill59

Alba Said: Would any of you have voted for him if you were among the contractors that trump didnt pay when he filed bankruptcy?

That's the biggest reason I didn't vote for him Alba. Most of that has been common knowledge for a couple of decades. Him hiring illegal day laboroers nd then trying not to pay them was newer knowledge to me.

He is a piece of s h i t no doubt. But he was the card we were dealt if we wanted to break away from the bigger pos's. Let's will now see if the little turd turns in to diarrhea

November 11, 2016 at 8:32 p.m.

Alba

Would any of you have voted for him if you were among the contractors that trump didn't pay when he filed bankruptcy?

November 11, 2016 at 11:59 a.m.

egg

Mike, it's always a pleasure when you weigh in with your opinions. I don't always agree with the conclusions you draw but I have to say I always agree with the way you hold yourself in the world. You are a respectful and thoughtful man and I hold you in high regard.

There is no "but" intended to follow this.

I can see that your dad is no longer with us in the flesh and I grieve with you for your loss. I know the taste of that very well and I pray that you and your family have just gone through an uplifting experience despite the pain. I've lost a lot of dear dear people in my life but they are very much with me every single day and I hold them in my heart without any debilitating sense of anger or tragedy. We always have one foot in the finite world and one foot in the infinite one.

Since we're a roofing board and we have earned the right to use roofing as a touchstone or as a symbol for the greater context of life in general, I feel it appropriate to summarize the election results by using a roofing example.

When you are about to submit a bid, any bid, you are casting a vote for your future. Listen to your stomach. Your clever clever mind can convince you of nearly anything, countermand the kind of judgement your stomach gives you for free. If your mind says, "Do it" and your stomach says, "Don't" then don't do it. It's the primal first right of refusal and it has to be honored.

We can never afford to take off the thinking cap and we can never afford to ignore the stomach. That's the challenge, and quite often the dilemma, we humans face daily, I see plenty of hate coming from both extremes of the population, and I'm very much with you in prayer. I have faith that we will get through this. If for some reason we don't, then we don't.

November 11, 2016 at 11:07 a.m.

natty

Trump is not necessarily book smart but he is street smart. He will definitely be a change in what this country has ever experienced. The past political year could not have been more tantalizing. It is even beyond what any fiction writer could have imagined.

Trump is the ultimate pitchman. It reminds me of that episode of the Twilight Zone where Ed Wynne bargains with the death angel for one final pitch before he is taken to the beyond. He won the bargain. Now let's see if he delivers. What is with the hair?

November 11, 2016 at 9:00 a.m.

twill59

the protestors according to the news programs, are in the thousands. We are a nation of millions. I'm not unsettled by it.

Obviously, if one is unhappy about things, then become a Lobbyist and BUY your free stuff and whatever else ails you.

November 11, 2016 at 1:57 a.m.

Mike H

My dad was a big Trump fan. I had a great deal of hesitation. I voted for him. I could not vote for Hillary. I disagree strongly with egg regarding her corruption, but I don't care to debate it. I do not believe the progressive vision of America is good for America, nor good for the world. An America that flexes it's muscles around the world to protect it's interest and promote democracy is better than any other country doing it. The United States of America has not taken another country's land after winning a war since the Mexican War. And even then, we offered immediate citizenship and homestead rights to all mexican landowners that wished to stay on their land. NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS DONE THAT after conquest. No other country in the world pays to rebuild after it wins, prior to leaving. The Constitution of the United States of America is possibly the single greatest world changing document after the Bible. I do not believe that courts should be used to circumvent the democratic process.

I knew a couple of things: I have said for years, we need business people in Washington, not politicians. I prefered a successful businessman with a loose mouth to a career politician with a loose mouth. I much prefer a billionaire businessman who built his wealth by building businesses than a politician who somehow amassed a net worth around 300,000,000 without selling or creating a single thing of intrinsic value. I cannot support in anyway, late term abortions. If I look back across the days of my life, I've said some stupid things in the locker room, on the roof, and elsewhere, that I'm not proud of and am glad weren't recorded. Becoming President of the US, is the most life altering, privacy eroding experience in the world. It is for someone who needs an ego fed, or someone who truly wants to help their nation. I was confident on the ego, and hopeful on the help. Donald was willing to give up a life of extreme luxury and all future privacy to run for president.

I still had my reservations.

Once I saw that money-power-drunk Washington DC voted Hillary 9 to 1 over Donald, I knew I made the right decision.

When I see the protests in our big city streets, I see people that are filled with fear, and desperately need meaning in their lives.

The only HATE I see, is coming from the left.

I am very hopeful. But still have my doubts. One thing that I know will not change, I will pray daily for our leaders, our Nation and it's people.


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