coating roofers my @#$%^

HUNTING,FISHING,AND FAMILY,THATS MY HOBBIES OH YA AND OLD BLUE!!!

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RIGHT ON! LOL :laugh:

I'm free to share most of my roofing stories, now that the statuture of limitations has run. :-)

THATS AWSOME I'm excited to meet with you and your family and here some good Ole roofing story's I'm sure you have many. Looking at next week being good.

Typcally we've used poly on gravel roofs, or on other roofs if there are a lot of splits. If we have a mod bit roof that is hail damaged, but otherwise wasn't falling apart, we usually just chop it. Usually 9-3. Sometimes if it's one of our chopped roofs that has surface hail damage we'll go lighter than that.

We love it when our roofs get hail damaged because the adjuster can't beat you up on price.

After talking with you this afternoon and hearing your stories, I told my wife: They're us. :woohoo: Our backgrounds are pretty similar.

Tim, The truth is knowing what to look for on a gravel or bur is the key to determining if poly is needed. most choppers think poly adds strength to there roof system but really it is just to divorce old from new if a bur is all split up you ether add floating patches or poly. (PREP IS THE KEY) this being said a 12-3 or a 20-5 will not stop construction splits without the proper prep. I have seen roofs shot with two plies of poly 6 gallons per ply then 12-4 on top plus silver and fail do to bad prep. Does kold king use poly on all specs and what are your specs. gallons and pounds

Kade,

A lot of "choppers" are eliminating the poly fabric and just going with 1 heavy layer of chopped glass and emulsion, or 2 layers. We haven't eliminated the poly, especially on gravel roofs, but a lot of contractors in California who've been doing the system a long time do it that way. What is your thought on that?

In looking at their videos it looks like they're putting down around 20-22 gallons and around 5 lbs of glass after cleaning off the loose gravel and dirt.

Yeah I grew up dreaming of flying too. Many a flying experiment from the hay-loft in the barn ended badly. Good thing my bones were rubber back then.

Still to this day I sleep with a fan in my face, and sometimes manage to drift off to sleep by imagining I'm in the sleping berth of a trans-continental flight in a Lockheed Constellation (Connie).

Yea when i was a kid i dreamed i could fly to! I didnt even have a plane,just flapped my arms every night! :laugh:

Tim,

Thank you so much. I honestly don't know what to say. I appreciate it very much.

As for the "what was I thinking" question, I don't think I'll feel that way. Flying has always been a dream, a passion, and something I love to do. I've never been scared in the air. Though the opportunities to go up in single engine craft have been few, I never turn one down.

As a kid, for years I dreamed almost nightly that I could fly. My neighbor and I both had big dreams of the Air Force. He went to Ohio State and got an aeronotical engineering degree. I was going to The Citadel, when my back injury ended the dream. He went on to become the winningest pilot in AF history by taking the 1st place award in 32 of 33 categories of flight school. Got his pick of aircraft and flew an F15 over Saudi Arabia for a couple years in Desert Storm. The only category he didn't win was Presentation. Apparently he just didn't care how shiny his boots were. He became the youngest modern day peace time test pilot and works at Area 51 today. I'm really proud of what he's done.

High BP has kept me from getting a full fledged flying license and I thought the parasails would be my opportunity to enjoy being in control of something I've dreamed about for as long as I can remember. I will read the book from cover to cover, several times, I'm sure.

Thanks again, Mike

Old School Said: I have seen those parachutes flying and thought that it looked fun and relatively safe. I was thinking of a ultralight about 30 years ago and never got one. They are quite a bit like regular planes now-a-days. Do you have any idea how much the parachute planes cost?

I bought my Challenger fixed wing used for $10,000, and my Harmenings powered parachute new for $10,000. You can find them cheaper than that, just make sure you have someone with experience go with you if you look at a used one to make sure there is not hidden damage, or that none of the critical structure is in bad shape. In General Aviation the FAA demands these items be repaired, but with Part 103 ultralights, the farmer can mend it back together with baling wire.

Also, some ultralights have a better reputation for safety than others. In my opinion:

Good: * Quicksilver (slow and safe) * Quad City Ultralights Challenger * Buckeye * Powrachutes * Harmenings * Six Chuter * CGS Hawk

Not So Good: * Rotec Rallye (old model, not mfg anymore) * Weedhopper * Titan (fast, might as well be in a Cessna)

Mike H Said: Tim,

I was talking about the plane.

I have been seriously thinking about taking lessons for powered parasailing from this guy: http://www.flyohio.com/index.html

Seemed like a very thorough person. What do you think?

Mike,

He looks like a very good choice as a flight instructor. Seems very professional. I couldn't see on his website if he's a licensed pilot, and that's a definate plus as you know they understand weather factors, air space and other FAA regulations, and flight dynamics such as stalls/spins. I've seen some ultralight instructors who had no formal flight training who were putting their students at risk, e.g., final approach low over high voltage power lines...lose an engine at the wrong time and you just might meet Jesus doing that.

A decent substitute for that is a book called Stick and Rudder by Wolfgang Langewiesche, which is considered the bible of aerodynamics for pilots. It's not very long but imparts excellent knowledge about the forces of wind on a wing, and how to stay out of trouble. Although I have a Private Pilots license, Stick and Rudder taught me a lot of important things not covered in my ground school or flight training.

Pilots have a lot of funny traditions, like snipping off the tail of your shirt after your first solo. One of those traditions is to pass along the book Stick and Rudder to someone thinking of taking flying lessons. This was done for me in 1984 when I was considering flying lessons, and I've passed along the tradition to you - your book Stick and Rudder will be delivered to your roofing office in 3-5 days.

If you decide not to get into flying, it will make a nice addition to your bookshelf anyway. If you do, then some day pay it forward by buying Stick and Rudder for someone else thinking of taking flying lessons.

Now my sales pitch. Flying is one of the most rewarding things I've ever done for myself. You'll learn a lot about yourself by forcing yourself to push through the fear of some unknowns initially as you do some things that seem unnatural at first. That first time or two solo'ing you'll find yourself 1,000' above the safety of earth and wonder what in the heck you were thinking. That's your brain arguing with your heart. Sometimes your brain just needs to take the back seat and observe. Push through that and there's a huge reward in personal satisfaction and a feeling of freedom and self-control that most don't get to experience.

I have seen those parachutes flying and thought that it looked fun and relatively safe. I was thinking of a ultralight about 30 years ago and never got one. They are quite a bit like regular planes now-a-days. Do you have any idea how much the parachute planes cost?

Tim,

I was talking about the plane.

I have been seriously thinking about taking lessons for powered parasailing from this guy: http://www.flyohio.com/index.html

Seemed like a very thorough person. What do you think?

glassemulsion Said: I have not decided yet, are you. Do you have a booth there?

We'll be there Wednesday but no booth. Might have a booth at the Western States show in reno.

Old School, yeah if you lose an engine you just float down, although you'd hit a little hard if you didn't flare the steering bars just before touching down. I took it off once and the steering lines on one side got wrapped around a downtube, preventing me from turning right. No biggie, just made left turns back to the runway.