Woody

Just went to replace five broken villa tiles yesterday. Turned the things over and there was the stamp saying Marley. Damned things won't interface with Monier. Ever layed up Marley? Wasn't that distributed through Celotex some years ago?

Call Vintage Tile in San Josemhttp://www.vintagerooftiles.com/ They have a lot of oddball concrete tiles.

Bought direct a lot....Both California & Colorado....No less breakage though, (?????)....still needs to be trucked...Unless of course, one is trucking to a supplier, then re-trucking to a const. site? naturally, more breakage would occur.....

The act of selling direct would not be unethical, so long as it was practiced ethically ;)

Monray (Monier-Raymond) was the first name used by Monier when it started in this country.

I don't consider tile plants selling direct to roofers unethical. Smaller tile plants have always done it. Until you've tried it, don't knock it. Breakage and misorders go WAY down.

But as to your point of Monier and a lack of ethics, I could write a book on that. But most of their questionable tactics were short-sighted and eventually came back to bite them.

Monier did a lot of, (what I thought), less-than-ethical antics....JMHO

I remember when they would sell direct to roofers....Not necessarilly based on quantity either.

JSC...Wasn't there a Monier-Monrey, (Monray?), as well?

About 6-7 yrs ago we cleaned-out our yard when we sold it...I hired some dump trucks and spent a day hauling concrete tile to a concrete recylcing facility...Made me sick....I couldn't give the stuff away...Hundred's of pallets of tile.

My boneyard is steadily shrinking. It's getting to the point that I've quit selling to other roofers or roof cleaners and hoard it for myself.

I was at the biggest boneyard around here recently and I've never heard so much whining as I heard then. I was a bit irritated because for decades I've never had to pay for tile when dealing with them, I always just traded tile I had for what I needed, but they won't do that anymore.

One of the problems in this climate is, if a pallet just sits for more than a couple of years, the wood starts to disinigrate to a point it can no longer be lifted with a forklift.

JSC, thanks for posting that.

That's a whole boneyard gone. I've seen that happen before and though it's much smaller, I suspect mine will ultimately meet the same end. When you're in the thick of it, all that stuff can come in handy, but when you stop, it's tough to justify keeping it. The commercial boneyards charge a lot for this stuff, but they have a lot of carrying costs to defray too before they ever make a penny. You must have had a good-sized yard to contain all of that.

Dub, where I am, you can take concrete to the quarry and they'll not charge you for it. They crush it up for other things. Road-base, I think. They charge for old comp and grind that up, too, but there is a charge for comp.

You didn't have a ditch? Tile is legal fill around here.

Structurally, I think the Marley was some of the best concrete tile ever made, especially for the price. Colors were splotchy though, and it was really critical that the pallets were properly mixed when loaded. You could have a barn dance on it and get very few broken.

CeeTile wasn't bad either, now that I recall.

Monier had something to do with liquidating the Marley inventory when that chapter of history ended. I don't know if they (Monier) are the ones who bought Marley out, or just acquired their plants and facilities, but through the Monier rep I got several thousand squares of existing Marley closeout inventory for nothing but shipping costs. There was lots of flashed terra cotta, some Rosewood, and a brown flashed brought into the yard.

I just hauled the last of it to the dump, along with small quantities of other obsolete odds and ends, along with 193 pallets of misc. Eagle and Lifetile.

It wasn't worth tying up a piece of property for that people wanted to lease for several thousand dollars a month.

Now I know why I never throw anything out. Crazy and sane are filed together forever in the miscellaneous tile specs folder. They were marketed out of San Bernardino and Hollister. I'm going to patch those measly five tile back together, reinforce them and swap them out with five others somewhere on the roof where they can be hidden. Certainteed bought out Celotex. I'll bet they just deep-sixed the tile bit when they did that.

Etex group.

With Boral and Etex .... oh, hell... :angry:

There was a Villa-style tile out of the Bay area called Ceetile in the '80's. I never knew what the "Cee" stood for, maybe Celotex.