Who Among Us Carries Concealed?

GOTTA LOVE TEXAS LOL

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We have 2 banner signs at the local gun range. We have learned that this is where many of our customers are and gun guys like to do business with gun guys. That 350,000 silicone/SPF job over TPO I've talked about? The owner is a gun guy who was really impressed with the Pmag I gave him. Have really been surprised how effective it is to market to gun guys.

Of course, no need to carry because attacks on honest people are a myth.

http://fox2now.com/2015/11/16/armed-utility-worker-kills-would-be-robber/

I carry and here at least, open or CCW is fine. Just another item of clothing to wear every day. As for suicide, if I decide to do so, I will, one way or another. Beleive it or not, I had to undergo psych tests before my last round of surgeries, and I was considered 'low-ris' after declaring suicide is a great option as opposed to living with zero quality of life. Firearm have nada to do with suicide and is a useless stat thrown out there by fear mongering.

I take the statistic seriously that your gun is far more likely to be misused by a family member than used to shoot a bad guy.

Lots of things are dangerous if you're careless. It is simply a matter of managing risk and millions of gun owners do it every day.

But it is almost impossible to be 100% vigilant all the time. At some point my nephew got access to the key and took the gun out and shot himself. If it could happen to a guy in charge of security at one of the most secure properties in the country, it could happen to anybody.

Nope. Cops and "security personnel" are some of the most inept gun handlers I've ever been around. Most full time gun instructors will tell you the same, that they only shoot enough to qualify. Secondly, and I hate to beat up the victim, but if the stepdad knew his son had a depression problem, he shouldn't have been anywhere near a gun. That is not a gun problem, that is a thinking problem.

And as Andy said, carrying is a lifestyle. I never even think about it anymore, putting on my gun every morning is as normal as putting on underwear. Oh wait, let me make that more applicable so Twill can understand: like putting on socks every day. :-)

Situational awareness was a big part of the martial arts so I have been practicing SA for decades. No different with a gun.

wywoody Said: Some years ago, I fired a guy when he went into an angry tirade at me because I told him he needed to learn to lay tile looser to cut down on breakage. After his outburst, I fired him and he told me I had better watch my back.

I took his threat seriously and borrowed a pistol from a friend. At the time, I went to my warehouse every morning at 5:30 to load the first delivery truck of the day. The business park would be deserted until about 7, so that was the time I felt most vulnerable.

But after a couple of weeks, I was so tired of the hassle of keeping track of the gun I decided it wasnt worth it. I noticed that during the time I thought I needed it most, I had to focus so much on the task at hand that I rarely even noticed when my truck drivers arrived, let alone be aware enough that I could be ready for a stealth attack.

I take the statistic seriously that your gun is far more likely to be misused by a family member than used to shoot a bad guy. I had a nephew that was suffering from depression and taking medication for it. His stepdad was Director of Security for the Idaho National Nuclear facility. He was issued a handgun, but because he was in more of an executive position, he didnt carry it. He kept it securely locked in a gun safe.

But it is almost impossible to be 100% vigilant all the time. At some point my nephew got access to the key and took the gun out and shot himself. If it could happen to a guy in charge of security at one of the most secure properties in the country, it could happen to anybody.

Woody... on the first part, once EDC becomes a part of your routine, it no longer becomes "a hassle". At first it's different, unique, etc. However, as time passes, you get used to it, & it no longer becomes a 2nd thought. As far as situational awareness, I suppose it's an individual thing. Maybe my life experiences have prepared me for my own SA but, again, it's not even a conscience thought anymore. Just something I've had, or been doing as long as I can remember.

Sorry to hear the story about your nephew. That's terrible. However, I don't blame the gun.

Some years ago, I fired a guy when he went into an angry tirade at me because I told him he needed to learn to lay tile looser to cut down on breakage. After his outburst, I fired him and he told me I had better "watch my back".

I took his threat seriously and borrowed a pistol from a friend. At the time, I went to my warehouse every morning at 5:30 to load the first delivery truck of the day. The business park would be deserted until about 7, so that was the time I felt most vulnerable.

But after a couple of weeks, I was so tired of the hassle of keeping track of the gun I decided it wasn't worth it. I noticed that during the time I thought I needed it most, I had to focus so much on the task at hand that I rarely even noticed when my truck drivers arrived, let alone be aware enough that I could be ready for a stealth attack.

I take the statistic seriously that your gun is far more likely to be misused by a family member than used to shoot a bad guy. I had a nephew that was suffering from depression and taking medication for it. His stepdad was Director of Security for the Idaho National Nuclear facility. He was issued a handgun, but because he was in more of an executive position, he didn't carry it. He kept it securely locked in a gun safe.

But it is almost impossible to be 100% vigilant all the time. At some point my nephew got access to the key and took the gun out and shot himself. If it could happen to a guy in charge of security at one of the most secure properties in the country, it could happen to anybody.

RoofDude Said:

As far as why do I carry...... its real simple. Cause I can B)

Exactly! Rights are likes skills - use it or lose it.

IWB 1:30 - 2:00 daily. Never been spotted, or printed to my knowledge. Have climbed many a ladder while CC'n. However, if laboring, I usually leave my EDC in my truck...locked.

I don't have near the crime problem where I live as you Tim. However, like you... I DO travel to areas that have much higher crime rates than where I actually live.

I would be curious to know the % of CC'ers in my county. When I picked my CHP up, I was shocked at how many new permits were in the stack..lol. My county only has a population of 20,000.

As far as why do I carry...... it's real simple. Cause I can B)

Lubbock is a city of just 200,000, but this headline from a few minutes ago, is repeatedly weekly here:

According to the Lubbock Police Department there were 3 robberies in Southwest Lubbock Saturday night at a movie theater, a convenience store, and a restaurant.

The risks are higher than you probably want to admit to yourself. I refuse to be an easy victim.

I checked Texas stats, I was a little off. Roughly 1 in 27 people in Texas have a concealed carry permit. I'd say that number is a good bit higher here in Lubbock because this is where rednecks are manufactured.

That's 825,957 Texans walking around with guns concealed. That was in 2014, I'd venture that it's well over 1 million by now.

But to the risk - not many of us thought we'd be in a car wreck today, and in fact stats are heavily weighed against it. But you put on your seatbelt today, right? Each of us gets to mitigate the risks as they see fit. I'm perfectly fine with you not carrying.

Yes, I live in a far different world than you. In my world there are bad guys killing good guys, and good guys want to protect their family from bad guys. ;-)

A chance it would be needed? You only put your seatbelt on just before the wreck, right? Take out health insurance just before you break your leg? When you need it isn't a good time to think about it for the first time.

But to seriously answer your question, yes, we find ourselves frequently in really rough 'hoods. We do a lot of industrial in Dallas Fort Worth slummy areas and there are more pimps, gangbangers, and hookers walking the streets than trees in your park.

I'm not sure where you live - maybe out in the boonies where you are less likely to need a carry gun. Around here though, when you walk into a Walmart, I'd venture that 1 in 15 are also carrying a gun. It's a Texas thing. It's a 2nd Amendment thing.

Even here in Lubbock, we are ranked by Forbes (see article below) as the 6th most dangerous city in the US due partly to drug trafficking. 808 violent crimes per 100,000...maybe you like those odds but I don't. And for that reason my wife also carries.

http://lubbockonline.com/crime-and-courts/2011-10-05/lubbock-ranks-no-6-forbes-list-dangerous-cities#.Vkj2yTlO_Hg

When I think of the abuse and pounding that my phone gets and the hassle of keeping track of it all day, I can't imagine the issues I'd have with a pistol. Is there a Glock with a 20 0z straight-claw hammer head grip?

Seriously, I would only wear a concealed gun if there was a genuine chance that it would be needed. What do you need it for Tim, do you wear lots of gold chains? Frequent opium dens? You must live in a far different world than me.