Look, I don't seek to eradicate any religion. As Mike posts earlier, what you choose to believe is largely inconsequential to me and is after all, your choice. I choose not to that's all. I have been an atheist for the best part of 30 yrs, my parents ar>>>
Hey, we finally got a subject that has a lot of thought and replies to it.
I kind of like the way JSC described it in the first line. Grab your wallet with both hands and run like crazy in the opposite direction. Most of these super religious are so>>>
Jedd wrote: [quote]How does he know how it ends?
Belief in God is necessary for good to prevail. Our whole being is grounded in reward vs punishment and those two ends of the spectrum influence behaviour. Speaking for myself, in all honest>>>
Jedd the eradication of Christian and any organized religion in general would also mean the gradual extinction of the principles of human dignity. If we cherish what is distinctive about Western civilization then whatever our religious conviction we shoul>>>
How does he know how it ends?>>>
Here it is..... the quote I was thinking about. Google would probably tell more, but no time at the present.
Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story [of the big-bang] en>>>
but, given that it's human nature to rely on ourselves and our own ingenuity, in some ways it takes more strength to put faith in something unseen than to tackle the world on your own merits. I certainly never considered myself as someone that was weak>>>
I would certainly agree. It wasn't until my chemistry education in college that I started to really question some of the things being taught. A lot of "scientific" explanation doesn't add up. Quite a few in the scientific community are saying the s>>>
[quote]Jedd wrote: [Of course this is explained away with the old, "well....(sigh) god works in mysterious ways". Hardly an explanation at all.[/quote]
Who owes you an explanation? God? Christians? There are countless things in the universe that>>>
Jedd wrote: [quote]Heaven the carrot and hell is the stick. There are other cultures, where, not to put too finer point on it, getting bent over is the norm. Asia for instance, North Korea particularly, the old Warsaw pact region, Rumania is known>>>
Heaven the carrot and hell is the stick. There are other cultures, where, not to put too finer point on it, getting bent over is the norm. Asia for instance, North Korea particularly, the old Warsaw pact region, Rumania is known for it, so morally it is n>>>
I have never thought that doing the right thing out of fear of Hell or to recieve eternal glory was something to admire. Doing the right thing because it's the right thing is what I admire, regardless of one's religion or lack of.>>>
Roofguy wrote: [quote]Mike H wrote: [quote]Tim,
I think it comes down to one thing. If your heart has truly been convinced that God is real is Christ paid the ultimate price for you, then the depth of your ineptitude, retchedness and undes>>>
Roofguy wrote: [quote]CIAK,
The new fangled contemporary churches where the congregation stands up and claps, bounces around, etc, is ok...just not ok for me. .
LOL You just described my church. New Pointe Community Church with roots as>>>
CIAK,
I agree that no denomination or branch of a denominal has a right to call their style the right style. But, I do have a right to call my style of church the right style for me. What is right for me is that church is a solemn, reserved, respectful,>>>