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Stealing the American Dream

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September 23, 2013 at 7:39 a.m.

Roofguy

The melting pot, yeah yeah yeah, I get that. America is a melting pot.

Sometimes when you add ingredients in a melting pot, the scum boils to the surface.

So many times people from other cultures come here to partake in the American dream, only to get it half right. They might serve in our military and think that makes them a patriotic American. It does not if you then spend the rest of your career lying, cheating, and stealing from real Americans.

September 24, 2013 at 11:55 a.m.

Roofguy

My scorn is directed to a single person, who wastes no chance to beat people over the head with his military service as his claim to be as American as anyone. No sir, you do not get what it is to be an American. You enjoy its spoils but you do not grasp the sense of moral compass required to truly be an American.

Granted, many Americans also lack that moral compass, but then they don't usually waste my time trying to convince me they at patriotic Americans or virtue.

September 24, 2013 at 6:35 a.m.

twill59

The issue of America's downfall, of course, falls squarely on to morals. Not economics, or immigration. Or Benghzai. Or whatever.

No respect for the law. No consequences for our actions. No enforcement of the laws. Uneven enforcement of the laws. Lack of true justice. etc. etc.

All moral issues or as the powerful now like to say Moral "hazards"

Until any, if not all of the above are fixed don't expect one or 2 symptoms of our diseases to be cured.

Ultimately egg, the churches can kissoff in this debate. All I see are government, criminal and bureaucrat allies there.

September 23, 2013 at 10:23 p.m.

egg

I invite everybody to read the complete works of Thomas Paine. We are talking late 1700's. He was an Englishman who came over with a letter from Benjamin Franklin that got him a job as editor of a struggling Philadelphia periodical. We are talking "founding fathers." When Washington and his army were scattering after a defeat, he wrote one of his American Crises papers on a drumhead by candlelight. His American Crises papers, not just his Common Sense work, were paramount to winning that war. He gave everything to the cause. He came within inches of being executed several times, both here and in England and in France. Always working for freedom. Warning: He also took on the established clergy and repudiated the legitimacy of the Bible for which position he was repudiated. Still, through everything, he was a fearless proponent of everything America stands for and should stand for. A man of his times, entirely sympatico with Thomas Jefferson.

As I say, we are talking about founding fathers.

Can you lay down your life for deep values, or do you just come to this country for boats, cars, rings, and houses? U. S. Grant grew up in a log cabin.

September 23, 2013 at 9:52 p.m.

Patty Cakes

Roofguy, I sense more to your statement something local or personal. Is this regarding a particular incident? If not, staements are general and understood. I'm part of that melting pot and have had 2 brothers serve in the US Army. We all feel very American. Are we being used as a Country of Opporunity, yes. We have opened our doors with the great belief for opportunity for all, the great majority treat it as such but we will always have to deal with the CHEATERS. No cure for GREED and EVIL. PC

September 23, 2013 at 6:37 p.m.

Roofguy

These things make us better businessmen. They force us to create a paper/email trail because when money is involved, peoples' memories fail. I haven't d a business email in 15 years.

September 23, 2013 at 12:38 p.m.

GSD

I have a tough time with that sometimes. Some of the people that move here, have the best intentions but they have been living in their own cultures too long. There are certain people I will not do business with because of the way their people do business. Especially if they are 1st generation immigrants. I hear the accent on the phone, and I decline the job. It is unfortunate, BUT I understand that it is a cultural thing and not a personal thing, they need to understand that also.

September 23, 2013 at 8:41 a.m.

OLE Willie

They learned from our politicians! :blink:


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