some of my desert home pics test

Euro Specs? TomB, do the photos and my description of installation not show an installation worthy of standing the test of time. No, I probably didn't explain every detail of my work but I didn't think you roofer's needed that. Of course I wasnt the Architect, and not that it matters if he was yankee or of the south. Didn't much matter to me at all. The foam patty idea I thought was birthed in Dade County, Florida. The HO, who spared no expense in building this home and the Mfg'er who gave a lifetime warranty including the tile, felt that that was the best system for this project. Teach me, what was ill-conceived? There is NO sheet meatal on this project. and as far as counter flashing, the HO and I went thru extensive time, patience and material to remove the need and use of counterflash. This was not your normal faux rock facade applied to the walls, rather an honest to goodness real rock, minimum 6" thick and he wanted a minimal amount of metal showing on the home. The masons had to cut a groove on the back side of the rock to slid on to a ledger plate. You need counterflashing to aide someone who has to come back in 5 years and repair the roof or expansion and both of those notions were covered prior to installation

It's a shame the owner didn't acquire some european installation specifications along with that Italian tile....As to the underlayment/attachment; Sounds like they went to tremendous unecessary expense, to satisfy a typical "yankee" architect/specifyer's, ill-conceived notions regarding tile roofing....Like the copper....Masonry should have a curb base w/counter-flashing though...Not a fan of burying sheet metal w/masonry.

I shocked lots of people after getting the Go ahead from Elk when I Dutch-Lapped my roof and added randoms here and there. Whenever a nail hit between the planks, I face nailed the shingles and covered with a dab of BJ Neoprene and a random.

My dimensional roof looks dimensional instead of smooth. Blasphamy to some! :laugh:

Thanks Tinner,You can do it with shingle and wood shakes/shingle as well. Great detail work, Egg

We seem to do a lot of serpertine patterns with staggering of rolls and then adding stacks and boosters

Looks good Egg. I've done randoms with shingles and slate, but shinglers really yell and say it can't be done! Phew on them! :laugh: Your's look good too, Rocky! :)

You're right about that. Last time I checked they had an ES number. Guess I better pay another visit. The vents do have to be fooled with quite a bit. I often find I need to rivet extra tabs to get them to seat properly. I cover the vents with something else until we lay up the field around them. I love the concept though. When you step away from the building it's as if they're not even there.

Here's my roof to wall head flashing:

Great looking scuppers, egg. Ohagin'a are great. Those look like like 20" 2 piece mission style, With an Old Sedona or Old World paint job, nicely done! Shouldn't really matter if their installed correctly but they are a 3/4' of an inch short of covering the vent screen and hole directly below them. I talked with them many times about this and they won't budge. They put nothing into R&D and I don't believe they can get an ICBO number. Biggest problem we've had is after we dry-in and we cover the screen with vent, the vent doesn't cover and rain penetrates. we,ve set tile pans under the sides, which is a temporary help.

O'Hagin cloaked vents. Etched, primed, painted, and given a slurry coat. Had a heck of a time not stepping on them later.

Simplest fitted terminations:

These days I'd have to say I'm jealous of anyone who has seven cap and pan tile jobs on the books. Best work there is.

Rocky, you are a great addition to the Forum. Interesting stuff!

two-piece mission...prettiest tile there is, prettiest tile there ever was.

First saw the foam patty installation here on the forum a few years ago... Florida wind conditions made it almost mandatory. I wouldn't want it on my own roof though. I want vertical straps and wired tiles. Wind clips if absolutely necessary. All flashings at tile plane field-formed and soldered to fit. I hate big, ugly lead jacks. O'Hagin had the right idea and it just has to be extended. jmho. One of the best things I ever did was buy a big wet-saw, big enough to cut concrete block. I mill everything beforehand, re-crate it and load it with the field tiles. Love it to death. More expensive though. We have clowns out here that are pushing Ice & water with millions of penetrations.

At the height of construction I had over 200 builders building 330 sq ft room additions to 30,0000sqft mansions now Im down to 40-50 Now of course they're not all going on at the same time and they are in different stages. Arizona got hit as hard as Vegas, but not everything, has stopped totally. And when thing slow down like they have people and businesses clear out. A good roofer doesnt have to worry as much as Chuck in the Truck, no matter what his price is, Chuck or the good roofer. we have probaly lost 200 licensed roofing contractors in the past six mths alone. Do a good job and the people will call you. Keep your margins and you'll be there to be called. I have 7- 200+ square 2-piece tile jobs on the books now that we haven't dried in yet.

I used to do about 2 big houses a year till 2009, (can't imagine 2 a month), then all new work of big new houses just stopped. I still get additions on the existing houses, but nothing new. I know that in many retirement meccas, the developers are really hurting and prices are falling. From Naples Fla to Lake Las Vegas to Park City, they all way overbuilt on the high end and values collapsed. I just assumed Arizona had that too.

I know what you mean about how long they can take when everything gets co-ordinated. This one took us over two years. Completion actually took 6 years after I first looked at the plans, over 3 years was involved in getting the city approval.

http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu195/GWMiller/Dist%20Homes/?albumview=slideshow

Thanks for sharing this stuff. :)

Ciak, we'll go 100 days with out a trace of rain then get a 1/4" and then another 60 days until we get more. It makes for very dull phone days. We are already 1-3/4" behind schedule and we only get 7" a year.

Wywoody, those pics are from late 2009 into early 2010. I have 3 or 4 in progress now, every bit that size. Because of the different trades, it take 8-10 months from dry-in to final to complete. we probably start 1 sometimes 2 a month. I'll send some pics of work in progress.

Rdog, how recent are those pictures? Around here new construction megahouses have become extremely rare. Nobody wants to spend 4 or 6 million when they can buy an equivelant pre-existing house for 1.5 to 2 million (or less).