Snap lines ??

Do you snap guide lines for shingle installation?(other than start line) Do you think they are good to use,or should be used,and why?

ever 10 inches...and 2, 6 inch lines for rackin....with the idiots we have to work with around here, you gotta have em. If not, your job will look like an ocean wave at the finish... :laugh:

$75.00

about 77 here in NY

Only made it to 28 in St Paul -- Pretty sore -- been at least 8-9 years since i tore off a 3 layer--what you paying in Kalamazoo for shingles? 30 year

They ship to anyone that will pay them! It was 38 degrees today in Kalamazoo!

Not that i read directions on the bundles much since they are on the inside of the wrapper now and i rip them all to hell -- But does'nt it say not to lay shingles in temps below like 38 degrees? -- I bought some shingles as well from the Home Depot 30 year timberline $63 a sq $20 cheaper than anyone else -- The guy told me they quit shipping shingles to them because the corporate office does'nt think anybody roofs in the winter in the Midwest?

It was cold in Michigan today too. We tore off about 10 squares two layers and roofed half of it. That was enough for me!

I hate to say this but to show you how much i have slowed down -- I went to work today me and 1 other guy It was 4 degrees F -- when we got to the job at 930AM -- (I wont get in my truck until it is at least above zero) We get there there is 2ft of snow on the roof (5/12 -- about 14 sq hip) we shoveled the snoww off the roof then shoveled it off the ground for the tear off -- Then tore off 6sq 3 layers and dryed in -- It was 4pm and we covered the 6 sq 3 layer tear off pile to pick up tommorrow when we bring a laborer -- It was 16F when we left -- Supposed to be in the 30s tommorrow.

Ok so the old 30 year timberline 30 year 4 bundles to a sq -- I guess i could believe that -- the old 25 year timberlines were 3 bundles to a sq until they stopped the 25 year timberline or made it the 30 wich now is the 40.

The reason i am giving you such a hard time is back in the day -- no - one could keep up with me -- I could run bundles up 2 stories so fast - i would wear down 3 guys on the roof grabbing them and setting them by the time i had them all up there there would be a pile of shingles on the eave and the guys would be laid out on the roof out of breath -- then I would get up ther and call them wussies and spread the pile i left on the eave before they could even get off their azzes --

I also could stand in the back of my truck on like a garage or 1 story where i could just barly reach with my hand on my tip toes - i would launch them up and onto the roof --

I am 40 now and i can still carry 2 bundles a time up the ladder if i wanted - possibly even 3 but know i do not have the stamina i used too -- Plus bad knee, neck , and back. So i will only do it just to show the guys they are slackin.

The 35 sq in a day i would say maybee and only if you had someone bringing you the bundles -- does not mean hand feed but set your bundle where you need it and open it for you -- even at that it would have to be like a 12 hour day or 14 with some breaks Wide open deck felted and lines already snapped and gun waiting.

I never liked hand fed either i am quicker without it -- just like my bundle set and set right. With my best at 24 sq my laborer was a $10.00 an hour guy brought to set bundles and help dry in and up and down the ladder stuff.

I don't think i would take you right handed anymore my shoulder has a torn rotator cuff for about 2 years but may be able to with my weak hand --

Sean, you are crazy. How is that on your shoulder?

I'm not getting old, theres just no roofing to do anymore. So I opened up and MMA gym.

Yes we do

Man, averaging 25 squares a day per man with two men is flying! You are a god! Too bad we tend to get old!

before I started my own business,I worked piecework with another guy named Charlie,the roofs were dried in,and shingles loaded,we would do (2) 25 sq. split levels a day with 2-3 skylights each,and about 40 ft ridge vent (metal style then),Used to have people stop to watch

Back in the 70's I was a superintendant for a company that was doing track houses, we had on an average 7 to 8 tracks going at a time (100 + houses per track).

I would give each track to a 2 man crew, got 2 houses a day and great quality because they knew all the houses were theirs so they didn't need to rush.

It was funny when we first started with a new developer because I would hold my crew off until they got 20 houses ahead.

The developer would call when he had 4 or five houses ready for us asking me to get my crews started so we didn't get behind.

those calls stopped after the first round because once we started we were pushing everyone.