We installed this slate roof about 25 years ago, and then did the garage roof last year. This winters snow and ice took off the gutter and damaged a few of the slates so we had to take it apart and fix it. I got to run the copper seamless half round gutters (40') and then we used the ice guards to protect it and the porch below. It came out nice! https://picasaweb.google.com/crookston.john4/GrandviewCopperGutters?authkey=Gv1sRgCOiXgIvC1JafwAE#
Why thanks Vickie! I just have a lot of interests and I have always been good at working with my hands. I am teaching too! It is the "Old School" slate school. The big job I am working on over near Detroit is one of those. The owner hired me to consult/teach and train the carpenter that built the house to roof it with slate. The guy really wants to learn, but had never installed a single slate. He had the slate bible and had read it, but that doesn't prepare you to roof a house like that.
It has been a process from getting the correct slate and all the equipment together, to going over the construction details, the safety details and all of the copper components. He is listening to me very well and the results show it. I will post a bunch of pictures on the other thread taking about that roof. We started on the hardest part of it and then we will install the gutters and tear down and more around. It will take a couple of months and I am constantly looking at pictures they send me and talking to them on the phone, plus going back every week or so to take them parts and pieces and to work with them. It is fun!
The round stairs that I built are going to be entered in the "Art Prize" in Grand Rapids Michigan this year. I will post some of the finished pictures of them when I take the entry pictures for the event. they really came out looking sweet!
Gee, Old School do you know how to do everything? This is not a smart a$$ remark. (You can't hear the awe in my voice) I am just really impressed.
When you get to old to work you need to teach. You should have other roofers follow you around and charge them to watch you work. Also welders and stair builders. Oh, and photo journalist.
Copper, no it is round. My brother put on some Berger bros. half round about 35 years ago and complained about the hanging system. he had put up K style gutters for years and asked me why you could not make a half round gutter with a reverse bead front lip like the K style. Then he had a machine made to do that. It was a bitch as it took over a year and a half and the company that made it said they would NEVER make another. He made it work and about 5 years ago he started to make the machines. I have one that is mobile and I chop and drop to gutter guys and builders.
There are five different ways to hang that gutter. He has a stamped fascia mounted bracket, and cast fascia mounted bracket, a roof hanging system similar to the Alcoa rod and bar, but 25 times as strong, the clip and screw like this one where we have an internal clip and then a stainless steel tie strap to triangulate it back to the fascia. He also has a formed bar bracket that can attach to the fascia and or the roof.
I have run 85 foot pieces of this stuff and it is really strong. Up north with the snow and ice we normally run 20 oz. but down south they can get away with 16 oz. Go to classicgutters.com to see what I am talking about.
Does that half round gutter have a square bead on it instead of a round bead? I never saw half round gutter brackets like that.