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SCOTUS & POTUS

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February 3, 2017 at 7:51 a.m.

Roofguy

It's human nature, the path we cut in life seems like the best path. To us.

I have swam upstream my whole life - if everyone is going left, I go right. It's habit by now. If someone says that Tuesday comes after Monday, sure enough, I have to test the theory before I buy into it. :-)

February 3, 2017 at 7:09 a.m.

CIAK

I contend that language change has happened for thousands of years, and would argue that it should be embraced as inevitable, and innovative. Coming from this prospective it is just as legitimate as those in "proper" English Roofguy I agree with you. There are times I'll argue out of boredom Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day B) :) :) B)

February 3, 2017 at 6:57 a.m.

Roofguy

Egg, agree. Sometimes I argue out of boredom. :-)

One abbreviation that annoys me: Xmas.

February 3, 2017 at 1:54 a.m.

egg

10-4

Same with UV, SBS, APP, BYOB, RSVP. All of these are technical terms as well. I'm not gettin on you either. Don't get me wrong. You're a very smart, talented, multi-dimensional, successful, creative man. I get nothing from taking little jabs at people and I'm not doing it here and certainly not to you.

What I'm saying, I think, is that certain things which may very well have a technical component to them are deserving of an amount of respect that exceeds the acronym threshold. Call it analogue if you like, or call it poetic, or call it sacred. It's a little ironic. JHWH was the acronym for that which must never be named. So I submit we now have the two ends of the spectrum of naming, each end subject to acronym substitution.

But stand back and look at it from a distance. We don't do the PoA to the flag with our hand over our heart, or sing the SSB and GBA. We don't elect a POTUS in November and, you get my point. Some things just deserve more time. More juice. Even if the atheists somehow win the day, what I'm doing isn't simply subjecting the world to the bugs built into my imperfect biological version of a perfect code. When I'm firing on all cylinders I'm using way more analysis than any machine can and I'm looking at parts of life that a machine has no interest in.

Some names deserve more than shorthand notation for reasons that go beyond simple economics or logistics. When I say "my Dad" instead of "my father," it's not because it's quicker. It's because it's more endearing. It has a more intimate human connection. POTUS is not more endearing. It's actually ugly. But I repeat myself.

February 2, 2017 at 10:06 p.m.

Roofguy

As with most things in life, it is different things to different people with different backgrounds.

Without patting myself on the back, you'll struggle to find a dumb licensed pilot. There is simply far too much technically- challenging complex systems, concepts, and theories to manage, simultaneously, for a person of low IQ to even pass the written, let alone the flying curriculum and check ride. But aviation is chock full of acronyms that have a deadly serious purpose.

Example: GUMPs is recited to oneself as part of a pre-landing checklist every single time you turn from baseleg to final approach: Gas (fuel or on Both tanks), Undercarriage (gear down), mixture (rich), prop ( blade pitch if adjustable).

Example: ATIS = Automatic Terminal Information System. Example: ILS = Instrument Landing System Example: IFR = Instrument Flight Rules Example: VFR = Visual Flight Rules IMC: IMC = Instrument Landing Conditions

There are hundreds more.

In the flying world brevity is not just suggested, it is required. It's not laziness.

February 2, 2017 at 9:10 a.m.

wywoody

I tried repeatedly saying Gorsuch for SCOTUS real fast, but it always comes out as Gore sucks four scrotums.

February 2, 2017 at 8:42 a.m.

Mike H

Eggers, youse is a true treat. Eyes in yerevan camp on this egg-greeshus use of DUH FACTOR.

February 2, 2017 at 7:53 a.m.

CIAK

The more disassociated you are from a group that uses the Acronyms ,the more that use stands out. It will be invisible to that group. Language is used to communicate period. The origin of the phrase is in telegraph code developed for news agencies before the telephone. It is recorded in a book known as The Phillips Code published in 1879, first as 'POT', quickly becoming POTUS. Telegraphic codes were used to save money, but could not be secret. Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day B) :) :) B)

February 2, 2017 at 1:00 a.m.

egg

You can submit that Tim, if you like, and you won't find me arguing with you about it because I understand what you're saying. It's a perfectly good reason. But it's only a reason, not an excuse.

I use acronyms myself. ASAP is a good one. SNAFU is another good one. LOL is now a very common and good one. It even sounds like what it is which makes it even better. NRCA is plenty good enough though when I refer to them when speaking I will often utter the complete version so people don't think I'm just spouting acronyms they don't know for effect.

In my experience, from before I was in the seventh grade to now, fifty-six years later, all seventh and other graders would say The President or The Supreme Court and we all knew they weren't talking about the class president or the state supreme court. Nobody ever said, "I'm going to take it all the way to the scotus." or "Who's running for potus next year?"

Seventh graders wouldn't know what we're talking about. The way I hear it, Supreme Court usually takes up a tad more than two syllables, but not really three and President takes three but takes less time and energy than potentate and is a lot more literally descriptive than potus. If I can get a ton more exact meaning by adding an "i" in between two syllables, you know I'll never even consider using a term like potus. Or Xmas.

FBI and CIA & Etc. are what they mean and they don't generate deviant word meaning when you say them.

But don't worry. I don't talk to seventh graders at their verbal level because they expect more or need to expect more or ought to expect more and I stand by my belief, but I'm done @#%$ ing. All y'all cain hope an pray with me and r hopin an aprayin will shorely transpotus t' sum peace o' mine. lol.

February 1, 2017 at 5:39 p.m.

Roofguy

Guys, we're roofers. Remember? :-)

They say a person should type and talk at the 7th grade level. Typing at the 7th grade level so that the maximum number of people can easily read it, doesn't mean I don't know where the semicolons and ellipses go.

I submit that it's often not laziness that causes people to use acronyms, but rather that they have what they think is a better use of their time than to type out Supreme Court of The United States.

February 1, 2017 at 4:00 p.m.

seen-it-all

Hate lazy talk. With all this social media communication and their abbreviations for words and sayings, you need to constantly Google crap to find out the content of what they are saying. I may be just a DORFC but I still make an endeavour to preserve the English language.

February 1, 2017 at 7:57 a.m.

Old School

Scrotum and Pus..?

February 1, 2017 at 12:24 a.m.

Chuck2

Wish I could help but I'm just a DORFA!

"Dumb Ole Roofer from Alabama" :dry:


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