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They are usually ok clover until they develop unlevel spots in the decking or too much water empties out into one spot. Put shingles on a 2/12 with even a slightly unlevel deck and it may leak right away.

But if water is getting under shingles, Im not gonna like it anyway.

I've said that many times, thinking it would be the end of the discussion/debate. I&W can fix everything right??

Chuck: We have a 20 year old 2/12 w/ 3-tabs on 4" exp, no extra sealants. Would I say it was OK or do it again? Heck no. I feel like it was luck. Plus shingles were $30/sq and labor was much cheaper.

2 - 3/4 slope Clover. We've pushed the limit before. There is one in town that is prolly a 2 at most. Been there for a long time.

Ist time I've pushed my luck w/ any protrusions however. Hi Temp Tri Built I&W underneath Crew could've done a better job w/ underlayment? Probably. Pipes did not leak. Not a bit. Skylight only. Was it gap in the I&W? A tear? Or simply not sealing at nails?

But if water is getting under shingles, I'm not gonna like it anyway.

4:12 min slope from here on out with these products.

I had another roofer argue with me for what seemed like eternity stating that it's ok to install 3-tab shingles on a 2/12 pitch as long as you use a 4 inch exposure and seal every butt joint and nail head. Maybe you can that way but why in the heck would you? Has the guy never heard of membrane? :woohoo:

Is that a 3/12? What underlayment under the metal roof?

3/12 is the worst.

Looks like Egg wins the perceptive roofer award:

Yup. Had a leak from the beginning and I could not solve it. I blamed the slope, put my Big Boy Pants on and bought her a new roof

I've never done one of those. That seems like a really low pitch, but I assume you know what you are doing.

Can you walk on that roof without watching where your going? Just wondering, I walked on one about eight years ago and learned that I couldn't walk in the field. Same on those?

Can you walk on that roof without watching where your going? Just wondering, I walked on one about eight years ago and learned that I couldn't walk in the field. Same on those?

Yes the shingle. I mentioned Gerard but I guess my supplier didn't feel like getting me a price or saying if they could get them.

My first hidden fastener metal roof was a NIGHTMARE of a dormered steep roof, but I learned a lot. I'm looking forward to a simple starter.

Are you doing the shingle? Or a tile or shake clover?

I don't like the 3 "shingle" Decra panel. That Thing is huge and what I've seen installed ( I haven't done one) I don't like . Plus the waste factor seems larger.

Maybe there are advantages. I'm listening

True, less shingles in the field of the roof.

2 sides w/ 2 boots is a good starter clover

Looks great Tom. Do you prefer Gerard over Decra, or dislike Decra? I may have just sold my first Decra roof, by homeowner request. Luckily it's two straight sides with two boots.

The ridge vent is the only thing I'm concerned about so far, the instructions make it seem a bit funky. And hopefully I've budgeted enough hours :unsure:

"Looks good from my house" :)

Gerard Granite Ridge, stone coated steel shingles woody