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As far as illegales you can find them outside home Depots........

Verbose and bombastic typical Jedd now Fl. I'm not clear on the accusation? "My safety record is unblemished ciak What's yours? Oh, thats right.....you don't have one." Please clarify the comment with facts. B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

Put yer hands on yer hips OS, now with a scowl on yer face, in a matronly manner, lift a hand and wag yer finger at yer victim as you deliver yer scolding. Now take a look at yerself and ask WTF are you to be giving out such stick? "no ropes, eeeek, no scaffold, double eeeek, what were you thinking?".....gimme a break As for falling 9ft and screwing up yer wrists "accidents are avoidable, forget the alibi". I knew a fella that fell 32ft through a deadlight and left this planet. HE WAS WALKING BACKWARDS. If you have your head screwed on and are aware of your surrounding you will not have an "accident" If alarm bells were going off when you pulled up on site and saw the roof, then corrections would be made or you wouldn't be going up the ladder in the first place. There isn't one of us here, except ciak (who wouldn't know the top side of a roof from Alice's looking glass) who hasn't jumped at the job at hand without a second thought. I take woodys point about stepping on spaced sheathing and that had occured to me when I saw the pic. Again, if you are walking that roof and stepping on open board insted of a rafter then you deserve what you get. Common sense prevails. A new poster comes up here, puts up some pics and y'awll flame him like he's a child?? Dare to suggest that they are a bunch of idiots who work illegally with complete disregard to their own safety? Oh, and we all pay jacked up w/c because of the likes of them, yeah.....nice No wonder only three people post 90% of the threads. WTF?? Get over yourselves.

My safety record is unblemished ciak Not one accident save for a cut with a hook blade in close to thirty yrs, for me and for every member of the crews I have run over those years. What's yours? Oh, thats right.....you don't have one.

Brandon, probably not the response you were expecting with your pictures. But thanks for posting them anyways. There is even some artistic merit in the first one. I hope you don't let the negativity discourage you from posting here.

As to the safety issue, I'll admit that when I'm in a site that's isolated and unlikely to have an inspector drive by, I'll get a little lax. But that barn wouldn't be one of them. It's too high and as the gaps in the first photo show, the spaced sheathing could easily break on a knot while being walked on. Ropes are awkward, but on this job they would only require you to not have everybody on the same side at once to still be workable.

Wow, Aren't we wise? I had a guy fall off from a one story roof about 20 years ago, only 9 feet. He landed funny on his writst and ended up with multiple fractures. Fully covered by WC insurance, but it screwed him up for a long time.

That ladder is 20 rungs from the ground and they are working about 6 feet above the eave; with wood shingles sliding down to their "staging" which is hard to see, but it may be a 2 x 4 or maybe a 2 x 6 at an angle. Kind of easy to get a head of steam up and go right over the top of it, flipping sideways as you go. You land on your head from that height and you are a dead man!, and it doesn't make any difference if you are union or not.

I don't like ropes either, that is why we set scaffold. Have you ever set it? If you know what you are doing it doesn't take all that long, and it is a lot safer and easier. We would set scaffold and we also have a Pettibone forklift to put materials up there as we need them. With the scaffold, you can drop the debris right on the scaffold and one guy can just push it to the end and right into a dump trailer or truck. You only handle it one time that way, and the ground stays clean too.

Why do you have such a burr under your saddle? You don't know me!

On the surface it appears Fl is just making a point to try to get some traction. I think that is because I have become calcified and need some thawing out when it comes to his post or reply’s The more I think about it I see a point. Who decides what is safe for your crews? I don’t believe the decision is made callously or with malice. When making safety decisions do you use some kind of meticulous formulae Are guys with calculators involved? Or do you just go “Humph” looks like it doesn’t require any special equipment just a good healthy respect of heights. If someone is up there and thinks he needs safety equipment shouldn’t they ask for it? How do you make safety decisions for you and your crew???

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Old School Said: Holy shit, tell me you and your men are not just standing on that mansard with nothing beneath you! We would set scaffold frames to the bottom so that we had somewhere to drop the debris, and also a place to work from for safetys sake at least.

In the end, it is much faster and a whole lot cheaper than trying to train a new roofer to replace the one that was killed falling off the roof!

No doubt, and if he were a union crew and had all the time in the world to fk around and get paid for it then he prolly would. That thing ain't but 17ft off the ground and trailing ropes and harnesses all over it would be more of a hazard than not. He has staging planks at the eave anyways. As for "faster and cheaper"-- bullshit. His crew would be tail lights before your bunch of overweight union lifers had even set up their "scaffold"

Nice assumptions there PC. You figured out from a couple of pics that they are a bunch of monkeys who have a dangerous work ethic and cheat the taxman. Where'd you earn the creds to make that claim?

.......good grief, f/kin choke on the sanctimony in here

Really, I can't believe you would actually show pictures of you and your creww being that irresponsible! Like Vaa said, No ropes, no scaffold, no nothing? What were you thinking?

Safety apparently not needed when using monkeys.

Wonder how many aren't on the books? OOPS, not my responsibility.

Hopefully they all live to tell the story.

Give you credit for the pictures. PC

Maintenance Man thought it was a roof leak ... Fought us all summer on it has to be a roof leak ...

Condensation was so heavy it dripped outside and froze ....

All i can say is wow! LOL

In Indiana it's rare to see anyone re-flash a chimney period. Sometimes slap some tar over the existing flashing, and then brag how fast and cheap you are. I give Brandon credit for trying here.

Residential work comp Vaa? In Indiana? I'd est that 3/4 or more of the work is done by 1099 tax cheats and KASH

A really weird way to flash a chimney. Counter is supposed to be lead. Is there any tinner's wings on that thing at all?

You could have gone a bit heavier with the roof cement on the nice stone chimney. ;)

What pitch is that barn? We like to park the truck under a tearoff anytime possible.