Pay rates

Pay scale rates appear to be actually DECLINING here! All trades.

I've been living on savings, I should be in costa rica soon. We've formed A corporation for A business.

Sometimes ya just feel like a punch'n bag......what an uphill battle this is.

The feds just love'em. The state/locasl municipalities bend over backwards to assist the poor-down-trodden illegals...The suppliers, as well as manufactures only goal is to sell product....NRCA caters to them....it goes on....All the while us dumb-asses try to do the right thing.....I feel like a real chump!

They wrp shingles with directions in Spanish. That tells me all I need to know.

There seems to be some influence here on the part of suppliers. Of course their numbers make Exactimate look like a gold mine. I just can't help thinking that they want to sell lots of material. And of course us "High Priced Guys", continually bail them out by making our payments every month, every job.

Manufacturers don't seem to have a care about it either (come to our seminar. Let us lecture you on price.....and then you go give the work away! Squares = $ Dinero! We'll certify ya! )

GAF proudly boasts that according to one their surveys, a very large % of the public complains they can't find professional contractors. Not sure which country on what contienent that survey took place.

Or...... it is like these fine Americans: Call a PRO to offer a solution, (Free Estimate) then find cheap labor to implement PRO advice

Same as it ever was, Same as it ever was, Same as .....

That wil hardly pay for your gas! I was going to do a repair for a guy on a roof with metal shingles, but I was too busy. The owner of the restaraunt told me the other day that he had another guy fix it. I was thinking 400 to 500 dollars, the guy did it for $20.00. Hey, I had more than that into it when I looked at it the first time!

Tico.....Yes, that's been the problem in the west, as well, so I've surmised for the past 15-20 yrs.

However, recently there was an ad for "journeymen" electricians, $17-$21/hr....Our pay scale range is $15 for a warm body, to $25 for a journey-leval roofer.

Noticed ads now & then for $10-$11hr for carpenters/roofers....WTH?

tico Said: Sé lo que el problema está aquí en florida. ¿Podría ser la misma a través de todo el país? I know what the problem is here in florida. Could it be the same across the whole country?

Cheap foreign help?

Sé lo que el problema está aquí en florida. ¿Podría ser la misma a través de todo el país? I know what the problem is here in florida. Could it be the same across the whole country?

This is nothing new around here. I really am amazed at the prices I see quoted on the jobs that I quote. Seems to me that most companies are barely covering costs! And I don't understand why. They could be adding $1,000 on each job and still get the jobs they need and everybody could make a few bucks. It seems like all of these guys are afraid that they might not get the job so they bid cheap. It's like they think that this is the only quote they will give out this month and they are desperate for work. 90% of the jobs around here are going for well under what they should, and could. And it's all in the mind of the idiot doing the estimating. Year in and year out. Nothing changes.