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February 21, 2015 at 8:33 a.m.

Roofguy

Or at least train to kill them. :-) Heading to Midland to train with a former SEAL this morning. Then get to train with SEAL Team 6 member Craig "Sawman" Sawyer in a few weeks.

Zombies, watch out! :-)

April 24, 2015 at 10:27 p.m.

Roofguy

Well said, Grumpy.

When I had my karate schools I was big on situational awareness. I drilled into my students: When you get to be a black belt you will be FAR less likely to find yourself in a fight, because: * Your situational awareness will be great. * You will have nothing to prove. * You will carry yourself in a way that doesn't look like a victim. * The law will hold you to a higher standard and you'll know it. * The best way to win a fight is to avoid it.

Shooting a person, even when legally justified, is a very bad thing. Mas Ayoob says you'll spend $100k to defend the civil suit the bad guy's family files, even is the DA found you were in the right.

I don't want to shoot anyone, but I will to protect my family.

April 23, 2015 at 10:48 a.m.

grumpy

The rear sight is something I saw alot of problems with shooters due to trigger finger as you mentioned. Too much and your shots go one way, too little and they go the other way. I find my personal trigger placement is different based on the size of each firearm grip, trigger, etc...

I use a SIRT laser training pistol for dry fire practice. I can shoot hundreds of rounds at my light switch plates while watching TV. It has done absolute wonders for my groups and I will make sure to dry fire practice before I go on a range session. Ever notice your first shot is often your best shot? After an extended range session, even the best will develop a flinch if they don't slow down and focus on the fundamentals.

In my defensive pistol class, I do similar to what you mentioned. On session #2 we are shooting from retention without any extension. Most shooter never practice that but if you examine real life scenarios caught on surveillance camera, you see this is how it often goes down. Sometimes even one handed from retention. I thankfully admit I have no "real world" experience so I have to study these surveillance videos on youtube to see just what is real world and plan accordingly. Heck many shooters don't get the opportunity on most ranges to draw and fire from a holster.

LOl you won't catch me volunteering to play security detail. Quite the opposite. Rule #1 of self defense is to remove yourself from a situation where you may need self defense. You might not have that option, being your house. However for them to put themselves in that situation... They have more courage than me, and I hope they have better lawyers too. Just syain'.

April 21, 2015 at 1:10 p.m.

Roofguy

Right hand is pretty much useless to pull a trigger - no individual finger flexion or extension. I have to shoot left-handed with right eye, which forces me to raise scopes up 1/4 to 1/2" in order to get my right eye on the scope.

My instructor chose to leave my head placement along with handgun shooting as I had a lot of rounds down range before I started with him. I always had the ability to have decent groups, he just had to rebuild my fundamentals. Before I compensated for my bad fundamentals by moving my rear sights all the way to the left on the slide. He fixed that by helping me find that my finger needed to be deeper into the trigger than I thought, and by lots of dry firing to eliminate anticipating the bang, and other techniques, correction targets, etc.

He (the SEAL) has made me a lot better at instinctive shooting, getting the gun into the fight early by rotating it toward the bad guy as soon as it clears my holster. That requires some care so as not to shoot your own leg, but if the need arises, his techniques have you putting 2 shots on the guy before your arms are extended. Well, they aren't his techniques, it's what he learned in SEAL training.

Those guys at Trident Tactical Solutions are high speed low drag. A couple of years ago I had 3 wetbacks in a van pull a gun on me and chase me down the highway near Midland, Tx. , thru construction, driving 95 mph the whole way. I don't know if they ever shot at me but they had the gun pointed right at me the whole time. I was worried about them finding out where I live because of the graphics on my pickup. When I mentioned that to my friends at Trident, 3 of them offered to don body armor, load their ARs, and stand watch for them overnight for a few days. That might have been a little dramatic, but they would have done it in a heartbeat.

And they aren't the kind of guys you'd want to get in a gun fight with armed with a Saturday night special and a stolen Glock. :-)

April 21, 2015 at 11:03 a.m.

grumpy

If I had a home range I would find reasons not to leave the house. I also wouldn't have cases of ammo lying round too.

That's my dream house though. I want to move to an area where I can put in some kind of home range. I have 9 acres about 3.5 hours away, which is not exactly what I would call convenient.

Sorry to hear of your disabilities, but that's exactly the point I was trying to make regarding multiple techniques. All our bodies are different and the one size fits all mentality alot of people have in regards to firearms is simply flawed.

I am curious, does your instructor have you shooting with your head canted to compensate for your eye dominance, or have you been trained up to shoot rifles weak handed?

April 21, 2015 at 8:43 a.m.

Roofguy

Left eye is blind, right arm damaged from car wreck in 1994 (on my way to a US Intec Brai seminar at ABC supply, no less). So I'm kinda stuck with it.

It is hard to get alignment of the forearm, gun, and eye when cross-eye dominant. I maintain a degree of accuracy by shooting a lot. I have an indoor handgun range at my house which makes it easy to zip out there and run a couple mags in 10 minutes then be back at work on the computer.

April 21, 2015 at 7:09 a.m.

grumpy

You can change your eye dominance. It's not all that difficult actually. However it can also revert back due to environmental variables. For example many professional truck drivers are mostly right eye dominant. That is because they often get a slight breeze on their left eye as they drive 8-12 hours a day causing them to squint a little in that eye. The squint causes their right eye to take in more light, thus it becomes dominant.

If you wish to change your eye dominance, you would take a pair of clear glasses and over the eye you wish NOT to be your dominant you would apply some typical scotch tape. The translucent kind, which lets light through but really you can not see through. Doing this when ever you can, like in your home or office where people wont laugh at you, will change your eye dominance. It might only take a day or two also. Some people however have reported nausea when trying this however. Also, this won't work if your eye dominance was cause by some kind of trauma to the other eye.

As an instructor I know my limitations. I was never a high speed low drag guy, so I know I cannot teach others to be what I am not. Trying to do so would make me a fool like Yaeger. I am a civilian who trains civilians the basics. Mostly I stick to concealed carry because that has been my passion.

In regards to different techniques, we all have em. Just remember just because your instructor does things one way doesn't mean every other way is wrong. Personally speaking when I am teaching a defensive pistol class, I will show the students how I do it but then allow them to adapt the technique to their own liking (so long as what they are doing is not unsafe). Because I train disabled veterans for free, I have come across alot of various different disabilities. For me to try to force my techniques on them would never work. Instead we work together to develop a unique technique to overcome their specific disability.

BTW if anyone wants to invite a rookie hunter to a pig hunt, I am right here anxiously awaiting your invitation.

April 20, 2015 at 9:32 p.m.

Roofguy

My ACOG is 4x32 (non variable) with the illuminated reticle and kill flash. I have 2 Eotech 512s and like them a lot. One of my ARs has a Sightmark night vision scope, which is fun. I keep a cheap illuminated Tru Glo red dot sight on the AR in my pickup as it gets bounced around - no sense trashing a $450 Eotech.

Yeager wants to be seen as an "operator" so badly it kills him that he isn't/wasn't. Training with a real SEAL exposes fakes like Yeager quickly - there seems to be a jillion minute little techniques they use to do what they do. Right down to where they want your elbow, discrediting the C-clamp grasp used by Chris Costa, etc.

He has a neat internet program called Team Trident where he posts a new set of drills to do 2-3 times per week, then a monthly shooting test. His techniques are really good - and while I have to work a lot harder than the average shooter due to being cross-eye dominant - my handgun groups at 25' are around 2" and that's good enough to shoot anyone from any distance I have any business shooting someone.

April 20, 2015 at 3:50 p.m.

grumpy

Roofguy Said:
RoofDude Said:
Roofguy Said: Im beating myself up. I rarely sell a gun! But recently I traded a really cool FN PS90 for an ACOG scope. The value was the same, but I gave up a gun for a scope????

If I were to guess, I would bet your, SHTF plan isnt going to suffer....lol. If anything, it probably improved B)

Probably right, but I have to admit that I just think ACOGs are sexy. That probably had something to do with it.

I like having access to the opinion of a SEAL with combat experience in Mosul. It help to separate the real world advice from that of internet wannabe commandos, like James Yeager. :-) Incidentally, Yeager and I have had it out several times on the internet. The last time he sent me an email wanting to know where we could meet and fight. I told him my usual charge for private lessons was $45/hr, but Id discount him to ten dollars since it probably wouldnt take long. :-) Here is a video parody of that nutjob (CAUTION LANGUAGE!!!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LXOMNnJQ3A

OMG Yeager is a friggin nutt job. I got his concealed carry DVD when I became a concealed carry instructor myself, figured I could pick up a few things to use in my own seminars. What I learned is what not to do.

"All defensive guns should be glock. All glocks should be 9mm's and all 9mm glocks should be 17's." What kind of absolute piss poor advice is that?! First off a glock 17 doesn't conceal well on most people. I have had some students (elderly) who couldn't properly manage the recoil of the 9mm. I never really liked the feel of the glock until I got the model 34.

His other piece of advice was to carry in no carry zones, advocating breaking the law. WTF? In Illinois you lose your license for that.

Isn't he a cop in TN? He's threatening you with physical violence via internet? Wow, interesting.

Which model acog did you pick up? I am thinking about this one for my pig stick... http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TA31H-68 I do kinda like the idea of a variable zoom however. I have a Burris XTR 1-4 variable on my 223/5.56. Burris is nowhere near as rugged as a trijicon however.

April 6, 2015 at 1:55 p.m.

Roofguy

RoofDude Said:
Roofguy Said: Im beating myself up. I rarely sell a gun! But recently I traded a really cool FN PS90 for an ACOG scope. The value was the same, but I gave up a gun for a scope????

If I were to guess, I would bet your, SHTF plan isnt going to suffer....lol. If anything, it probably improved B)

Probably right, but I have to admit that I just think ACOGs are sexy. That probably had something to do with it.

I like having access to the opinion of a SEAL with combat experience in Mosul. It help to separate the real world advice from that of internet wannabe commandos, like James Yeager. :-) Incidentally, Yeager and I have had it out several times on the internet. The last time he sent me an email wanting to know where we could meet and fight. I told him my usual charge for private lessons was $45/hr, but I'd discount him to ten dollars since it probably wouldn't take long. :-) Here is a video parody of that nutjob (CAUTION LANGUAGE!!!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LXOMNnJQ3A

April 6, 2015 at 7:42 a.m.

RoofDude

Roofguy Said: Im beating myself up. I rarely sell a gun! But recently I traded a really cool FN PS90 for an ACOG scope. The value was the same, but I gave up a gun for a scope????

If I were to guess, I would bet your, SHTF plan isn't going to suffer....lol. If anything, it probably improved B)

March 28, 2015 at 2:16 p.m.

Roofguy

I'm beating myself up. I rarely sell a gun! But recently I traded a really cool FN PS90 for an ACOG scope. The value was the same, but I gave up a gun for a scope????

March 28, 2015 at 10:07 a.m.

grumpy

I am at the office, and now you have me wanting to drive home 40 miles to take a pick of my shizat. This may be my favorite thread in this forum EVER.

March 15, 2015 at 9:39 a.m.

tinner666

Well said Tim.

March 15, 2015 at 9:33 a.m.

Roofguy

Karate = Guns.

Or that's the way it seems to me. I used to tell my students: Right now you think about fighting people and you wonder what your skills can do if you need them, but if you become a black belt you will be far less likely to fight than other people are - because you won't feel you have anything to prove, and because the way you carry yourself in your daily life tells thugs you aren't an easy target.

I don't want to shoot anyone - stats say that even after a justified shooting, you will spend $100k defending the civil suit from the bad guy's family. I don't want that, but the fact that there is a Glock 19 under my shirt with 15 rounds of JHP means I don't have to walk around fearful, either. Regular training adds to that as I know I can likely outshoot 95 out of 100 of the thugs who might want to shoot me. Having the appearance of being capable of defending oneself, reduces the chance you'll have to.

Twill, I've rode out those ammo spike prices more than once. I reload my own 9mm and have accumulated enough to not be affected by any spikes, or zombies. :-) I'd tell you guys how much I have accumulated, but then I'd have to kill you all and you seem like a really swell bunch of guys. :-)

March 15, 2015 at 8:23 a.m.

clvr83

If you have kids, you've probably heard of the cup song.

Here it is w/ guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QtM7X0xYN8


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