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December 18, 2013 at 9:14 p.m.

tinner666

I've been seeing this all over town. Two today alone. Must be fantastic stuff.

I might have to rethink my roofing somewhat. A roll of 14" x 50' black aluminum nets $2,000.00 as a bib product. How much do you think a roll of I&W will net me? :unsure: Is it any easier to use? :unsure: I'm sure it has a 100 year track record though. :huh:

December 20, 2013 at 8:00 p.m.

tinner666

Color isn't good, but the roof is vermont green.

THere is a curved valley between the wall and entry area. Some real JL repairs at the break. I ran the break the OS way without metal. Run full an d3/4 course into the break, then used a starter and 'first' course with 4" overlap. It must work, there are hundreds, if not thousands done like that around here, dating back to the 1700's. Using a hook on the steep area feels like I'm climbing a wall. :laugh:

December 20, 2013 at 7:57 p.m.

Old School

Hell, they just slide them into the holes and called it good. What a joke.

December 20, 2013 at 7:55 p.m.

tinner666

OS, the Vermont is a 'modified' random 12. It has the occasional 16" thrown in, or even a few doubled 12's. First one set 4-6" short, second on top of it at the 2" headlap. Scalloped bottoms too, here and there.

December 20, 2013 at 7:43 p.m.

Old School

You have to take apart ALL of the slates that are near to it to fix them. A repair that started as 2 or 3 slates when they "fixed" it with I & W can turn out to be 40 or 50 real quick. And they charge for the work too! Joe Jenkins had the right idea when he called "roofers" that do that "Neanderthals" I call them "Tar-Mites"

The thing that bothers me most is that there are people like Tinner and myself that would be more than happy to tell you how to do it if you don't know. All you have to do is ask!

December 20, 2013 at 7:38 p.m.

tinner666

I was making repairs on the 'modified' random twelve today and the HO asked if I was using I&W. :ohmy: It seems the last crew or two had said it was needed everywhere. :woohoo: I asked if he thought I should cut little 3" x 3" pieces and just randomly stick them under my repairs?? :woohoo: I explained that if I tear the area out between the wall and small gable where the roof changed pitch, I'd use it there, but it isn't necessary on torn felt or plain wood.

December 20, 2013 at 6:01 p.m.

PatChap

That doesn't make a lick of sense. I get that some people are lazy, but that's being opposite lazy. It would be less work to slide a regular old bib in there. I hate the stuff, even on shingle roofs I use as little as possible. Did one of my friends grandmothers roofs, just a little 5/12 rancher. Had to change 20 or so completely healthy sheets of plywood thanks to the last idiots using an excessive amount of it.

December 19, 2013 at 12:39 p.m.

tinner666

There may be some on the wood. These guys slap the stuff everywhere. Above the vent, it's also between the slates. Beside it woven like steps. Used like bibs. Some archs have shown drawings with the crap coming all the way down to the exposure. :woohoo: :ohmy:

December 19, 2013 at 8:31 a.m.

Old School

Good God, they are just throwing those slates in in any direction. Is that I & W beneath everything, or just at the joints?


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