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When taking slate off and reinstalling them on the same house, I'd always order 40%-80% more so I'd have enough to do the job. It's taken me 30+ years to learn I've been doing it wrong and overcharging the customers. I've seen the light and will now change my ways!

(I edited the sentence before for clarification.) As long as you start with an original slate roof that is done with a 2" headlap, and shorten the headlap, this is possible. Slate don't need a headlap!

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Very "cute" Frank. Those are fun ones to do.

Sure. Need more? Credit and links always appreciated! Feel free to use any I put up or have in my albums. :) :) :) :)

Tinner can I have your permission to publish that slate photo on my FB page and in my next eblast? I will give you credit and a link to where ever you want. That last picture, the raggity one.

Thanks, Vickie

I like that one Tinner!

cts racing Said: I bet they used electro-galvanized nails too.

BTW: Pic#3 the neighbor NEEDS a new roof!!!

I don't think so. It's just a mix of Vermont, Penns, and Bucks on a Variated Ragged Random.

Like this one for instance.

I bet they used electro-galvanized nails too. I'm guessing they only used 1 nail for those that have swiveled around.

So I see they smeared white caulking on the one slate; where's the 10 gal. of roof cement patches? Better yet - that spray repair can stuff. Time to get a lawyer; and then redo the entire slate roof.

BTW: Pic#3 the neighbor NEEDS a new roof!!!

DdubyaC Said: In the first pic, there are two slates skewed out by the valley. What caused that, no fastener or missed the board?

No clue. I didn't even evaluate the leaks there. I just gave a price to repair the general area this year some time.

Just too many things wrong to worry about specific repairs. A total turd job.

In the first pic, there are two slates skewed out by the valley. What caused that, no fastener or missed the board?

Oh, I missed that post. It must have been posted about the same time I was posting mine. The facts are the same though, they made the Good" roof a POS in a hurry, and they charged the homeowners to do it too. I would bet that they installed some type of Ice and Water shield beneath it and then just nailed the slates over it. It is now time for the chickens to come home to roost! Big problems! It is caled a tear-off and re-install! What a joke! I saw the same thing two years ago on a big repair job we did for a college around here. They stretched everything as far as they possibly could, and then they did repairs on it that made it worse. Hopefully we were able to give them another 20 to 30 years, but it is like polishing a turd! If you have no headlap as in this case, the only thing to do is to take it off and do it right. good luck with that one.

You mis-read this sentence OS. Or I put it wrong. I've edited my original post to better clarify things.

"As long as you start with slate and a roof that is done with a 2" headlap, this is possible."

The roof had a 2" headlap originally. They changed it to 1/2" or so. Negative headlap in areas too. :woohoo:

The slate aren't over 90-100 years old, btw.

It looks like Buckingham Virginia. There is a lot of that down there. Like he said, they just laid it with a 2" headlap and you can see that it wsa originally laid with a 3" headlap, you can still see the old exposure marks. I would bet that the "redo" is only about 5 years old if that. Looking at the "new" installationk I think that they must have struck some lines, but they didn't measure to see where they had to be. I would bet even money that it is leaking in the valley, (see how crooked it is?) and at the transition, because they missed the flashing and headlap there too. Like I said, it is a sad joke! Hell, look at the large gap they left between the slates. Just guessing, the possibility is that they tore off the old roof and dodn't know where to get extra slates so they just shorted the headlap and spaced themn out so that they had enough to put it back together again without buying exta.

10 x 16 Buckinghams, 7-1/2"to 7-3/4" exposure it i remember correctly. Whaddya expect? I only measured the headlap. Anywhere from 1/2" to 1", with an occasional 1'1/2" thrown in for good measure. :blush:

What is the size of the slate and what is the exposer

Same here OS. I drive by and see those details/ short courses regularly. And if I try to hire a guy, all I get is smirks when I explain that we snap lines. That our goal is to a top notch job.

Nah, no "experienced" roofers for me.

We can't get to step 1. How in the heck am I gonna explain ventilation, proper nailing, flashing or 20 other things when one of the basic requirements is a "joke"?

I hope business is good 2013.....I have 2 laborers who are ready 2 be installers

How old is that slate tinner?