Going Negative - Your Thoughts?

Mike H Said: Perhaps the greatest beauty of the answer was its ability to translated in so many applicable manners. Idunno?

We have the same problem with our politicians today.

Thank the Lord for Google. Donkey's Bridge sailed way over too.

I actually looked at the literal meaning of pons asinorum "the point at which many learners fail, especially a theory or formula that is difficult to grasp." and believed it to be a simple two word answer to whether or not you should go negative. It's such an easy trap to fall into, and I know at one point or another, we stumble into that muck. Then we tell ourselves "won't do that again"... but we usually do.

Perhaps the greatest beauty of the answer was it's ability to translated in so many applicable manners. Idunno?

Donkey's Bridge? It was a dig. :-)

That's ok, it's just not my style to hide a dig in a riddle. If I'm trying to annoy you, you'll know right away. :-) And I'm sure that last comment just T-d up an easy one...

I think the edit is much better. There's nothing wrong with educating. I don't hesitate to share the kind of things other roofers do, but don't cross the line into specifics that make the target easier to identify. I figure if the education doesn't make them do the research, specifics won't help.

I didn't take CIAK as a dig when "I laughed". Of course, originally it was way over the head of this simple hick and I had to look up "Pons Asinorum", but Mr. Webster cleared it all up fo me.

It is a double edged sword, no doubt. I've been selling roofs for 36 years and as much as I wish it were different, a lot of roofs have been sold by pointing out that the reason Joe Blow Roofing's quote is $1500 cheaper than mine, is because he's in the habit of shortchanging the spec.

The delicate balance is instilling a little bit of fear of a cheap price and how a cheap price is accomplished, and having a professional appearance that you're above the fray of the fly-by-nights attacking each other.

I make poor decisions when I've just ran across some fly-by-nightery as I did yesterday, which caused an emotional reaction and a change to the website. But generally after I calm down I fix it later.

Why people buy $75,000 roofs without Googling to see if the owners have criminal records is beyond me.

Revised. Going negative IMO will greate a negative image and will feed into a general perception of poor professionalism on all roofing contractors in your area and as a profession. B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

Going negative was the premis obviously. That was your question correct? B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

Didn't look overly negative to me but, I'm guessing I'm late to the party. One observation from the revised edition though...... Can't tell much from that pic Tim.

In a scenario like this, I would use a better pic that clearly makes your point. I knew going in what it was supposed to show, & couldn't tell.

2 cents...

Gee that clears it right up. :woohoo:

The only obvious absurdity I see is your talking in circles, leaving the reader to figure out which "premis" [sic] you're talking about.

Code? I was trying to answer your question. The premis you put forth if it we're consistently applied would lead to the obvious absurdity. B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

CIAK Said: Pons Asinorum. B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Everyday

When I feel a need to insult someone, I just step up and say it. I don't hide it in code...

CIAK Said: Pons Asinorum. B)

I laughed

Pons Asinorum. B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Everyday

I think you could stop after the 3rd paragraph, or tone down the last three.

Doesn't sound negative to me. You're just trying to educate building owners about what to watch for. Of course the crooked roofer is going to lie through his teeth and try to make you look like the crook. Nothing you can do about that. Just keep doing what's right and price jobs the way that makes you a profit. It all comes around in the long haul.