for you Obama voters...

lanny Said: ---Yes, I have some friends that have purchased property 60 miles away from our urban center so they have a place to flee the coming entitlement masses. ---It is like buying insurance. I have life insurance but I havent died. I have home owners insurance but I havent made any claims. I have health insurance but havent used it. I have business insurance but havent filed a claim. I have auto insurance but havent used it either. I spend about 20k/yr on insurance that I havent used. Over the last 20 years that adds up...So I will spend some money for what might happen. ---The govt has created an entitlement mentality where people actually believe that what I earn belongs to them. They should get free healthcare (paid for by me). They should get free tuition (paid for by me). I not only have to pay my way but I have to pay for theirs too. I have 2 kids in college right now and I get no free money. I pay the entire tuition and we have NO student loans which I suppose I will end up paying for everybody else.

Lanny

I installed this 20kw whole house generator a few months ago. Electricity goes off for 10 seconds, the genset starts. Turns itself off when power is back on, and starts every Wednesday and runs for 12 minutes to self-check and charge the battery.

I don't think social unrest is likely, but I also recognize that on 12-6-41 nobody dreamed Japs could attack Pearl Harbor, and on 9-10-01 nobody dreamed that Islamists could knock down the WTCs with passenger jets.

I try not to fall into traps that say that just because something hasn't happened, it can't. I do the math in my head and prepare accordingly.

twill59 Said: What Mitens has to say to garner my vote:

I will fight to eliminate 29 CFR 1926.501(b)(13)

Simple and effective.

Where is he? Oh wait he is debating useless nonsense. Sorry. Wrong country, wrong time, wrong candidate.

Did you check out the 3rd party debates?

True, the 4 candidates wasted too much time trifling over constitutional matters such as marijuana legalization (500,000 AMERICANS sitting in prison , constitutionial rights destroyed by Dem/ Reps) and they did not mention 29 CFR 1926.501(b)(13), they at least had a REAL debate about REAL issues instead of preening for their own joys and madness.

Quite refreshing.

But Mittens could still get my vote. He just needs to address one abomination. Anytime.

Hes got 12 days......

Keeping my fingers cross......

(See twill whistle!)

Tapping toes.......

Fingers crossed.....

12 more days!

BUT I AINT HOLDING MY BREATH ---I aint THAT stupid! :woohoo:

Twill, life is full of compromises. If it weren't, everybody would be tearing every roof to the deck, installing 3 plies of Ice Shield, with a standing seam genuine copper roof over that. But we all know that building owners don't do that - they compromise.

A vote for anyone but Romney is 1/2 a vote for Obama. There's no getting around the math.

1. "I realize this election could be my last." [Please vote for candidates who will] "support the biblical definition of marriage between a man and woman, protect the sanctity of life, and defend our religious freedoms." -Billy Graham, who’ll be 94 on Nov.7, the day after the election

2. In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress. - John Adams

3. If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are most likely misinformed. - Mark Twain

4. Suppose you were an idiot.. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I'm repeating myself. - Mark Twain

5. I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - Winston Churchill

6. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw

7. A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. - G. Gordon Liddy

8. Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. - James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

9. Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. - Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

10. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

11. Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Frederic Bastiat, French economist(1801-1850)

12. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it.. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. - Ronald Reagan (1986)

13. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers

14. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P.J. O'Rourke

15. In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)

16. Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! - Pericles (430 B.C.)

17. No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain (1866)

18. Talk is cheap... Except when Congress does it. - Anonymous

19. The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. - Ronald Reagan

20. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill

21. The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. - Mark Twain

22. The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

23. There is no distinctly Native American criminal class... Save Congress. - Mark Twain

24. What this country needs are more unemployed politicians. - Edward Langley, Artist (1928-1995)

25. A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson

26. We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

27. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher

wisdom from many

Lanny

What Mitens has to say to garner my vote:

"I will fight to eliminate 29 CFR 1926.501(b)(13)"

Simple and effective.

Where is he? Oh wait he is debating useless nonsense. Sorry. Wrong country, wrong time, wrong candidate.

Did you check out the 3rd party debates?

True, the 4 candidates wasted too much time trifling over constitutional matters such as marijuana legalization (500,000 AMERICANS sitting in prison , constitutionial rights destroyed by Dem/ Reps) and they did not mention 29 CFR 1926.501(b)(13), they at least had a REAL debate about REAL issues instead of preening for their own joys and madness.

Quite refreshing.

But Mittens could still get my vote. He just needs to address one abomination. Anytime.

He's got 12 days......

Keeping my fingers cross......

(See twill whistle!)

Tapping toes.......

Fingers crossed.....

12 more days!

BUT I AIN'T HOLDING MY BREATH ---I ain't THAT stupid! :woohoo:

---Yes, I have some friends that have purchased property 60 miles away from our urban center so they have a place to flee the coming entitlement masses. ---It is like buying insurance. I have life insurance but I haven't died. I have home owner's insurance but I haven't made any claims. I have health insurance but haven't used it. I have business insurance but haven't filed a claim. I have auto insurance but haven't used it either. I spend about 20k/yr on insurance that I haven't used. Over the last 20 years that adds up...So I will spend some money for what might happen. ---The gov't has created an entitlement mentality where people actually believe that what I earn belongs to them. They should get free healthcare (paid for by me). They should get free tuition (paid for by me). I not only have to pay my way but I have to pay for their's too. I have 2 kids in college right now and I get no free money. I pay the entire tuition and we have NO student loans which I suppose I will end up paying for everybody else.

Lanny

Lanny, that's right, but methinks that's about to change.

We're quickly reaching in boiling point. The country is broke and getting broker, which means it's very likely that entitlements will eventually end regardless who is president. Obama would delay that at the expense of taxpayers, who're already pissed off about having to support lazy people. I think at the very least it would cause a tax revolt.

Romney would end entitlements sooner, because he's a businessman and he knows we have to in order to survive fiscally. This would cause - like I said above - chaos in the streets as the perpetual entitlement-dependent class seeks to take what they think they're owed from those that Obama/Sharpton/Jackson/Shabazz have indoctrinated them to believe owes it to them.

I have invested a fair amount of time and money in the last year toward surviving that eventuality.

Bumper sticker... ---" Work hard. The gov't needs the money to give to those who don't."

Lanny

Tell me we won't experience Katrina x 50 when these losers get their welfare cut off because the country is broke:

This is what happens when the OBAMA administration

adds 50% to the rolls of free-loaders on food stamps.

Under the heading of “YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS”, this is an actual event that happened in Ohio.

At approximately 2:30 pm, September 6, 2012, I entered the Kroger store on SR 28 in Goshen Ohio to pick up a few items. I gathered my items and went to the 10 and under register to check-out. The person in front of me (white female, approximate age 35-43, fake nails, big braided hair do, clean clothes, carrying a purse and a plastic drinking cup) put her purchase on the check out surface – ONE GRAPE. Yes, that is correct ONE GRAPE. The cashier asked if that was all and she replied yes. The cashier then weighted the GRAPE and told the women the cost was $.02 (TWO CENTS), the women then pulled out her EBT (food stamps) card and swiped it through the credit card machine, requesting $24.00 in cash back. The cashier asked if she wanted the GRAPE, the woman replied no and the GRAPE was put in the garbage can. The register recorded the sale $24.00, credit .02, total $24.00 cash back. The cashier then asked if four fives would be okay because she was out of tens, the woman agreed and took the $24.00 folded it up and put it in her pocket and left the store As the next person in line I asked the cashier “as a tax payer what in the hell just happened here?” She said she was on the clock and could not comment. I then asked if I had actually seen this person purchase and discard a GRAPE, then get cash back on her EBT card. The cashier responded that it happens all day every day in their store. She also said that if the person buying the GRAPE has it ring up over .02 they get mad and make her reweigh it.

My next comment was to ask the cashier if she planned to vote in November and she said she could hardly wait for 11/6/12 to get here as one tax payer to another. I paid for my groceries, in cash, and left the store madder than 10 wet hens. While walking to my car I passed a black middle aged woman who wanted to know if I had fifty cents to give her (she really didn’t know how close she was to getting an ear full at this point). I told her no and continued to walk, she looked at my right hand that held the change from my groceries and saw the money and while looking at my hand asked again – "you sure you don’t got fifty cents" – my answer was a very forceful, loud, rude and no nonsense – NO I DO NOT. She walked away from me to a young couple in the next aisle and they gave her money.

This is not one of those stories that a friend of a friend told a friend – I WITNESSED THIS AND WOULD LOVE TO TESTIFY IN COURT TO WHAT I SAW, however, it is apparently not illegal to go into a grocery store and buy a GRAPE, throw it away and take cash back from a food stamp EBT card and walk out he door. If she is so poor she needs food stamps why in the hell didn’t she buy groceries and why does our government allow cash back??? This crap needs to stop and soon!!

THOSE ARE YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK.........and quite honestly, I can't afford this anymore...... Please send this to everyone you know this needs to get out to the public, if we don’t get the takers stopped we are all doomed.

Here are a few examples of what I saw in the parking lot:

Guys, it's getting way too late in the game to suffer fools gladly. We have sat on our PC butts and looked the other way while liberals have destroyed our country. Actually, some republicans have helped them.

The time for being nice has long since passed. It's time to stop saying: Oh, there isn't a nickel's difference between them. Bullcrap! The difference between Obama and Romney is night and day (no pun intended).

Obama is trash. He's a punk. He is the most unpresidential president we've ever had. He talks like a gangbanger, calling Romney a "bullshitter" yesterday. I want a little dignity in my president.

I can do simple math in my head, and evidently a lot of other people can too. It has not escaped me the recent popularity of TV shows like Doomsday Preppers, Doomsday Bunkers, Sons of Anarchy, Revolution, etc. Perception is reality, and people think something is up. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It has not escaped me that when I go to my favorite gun store, they are swamped and have trouble keeping guns in stock. I was at Wally World yesterday to pick up another Savage .22, but they had none and the employee said they sell them as fast as they get them. I go to gun shows all over the state - I've been going to the Lubbock gun show for years, and this year (2 weeks ago) you couldn't even park within a 1/4 mile of the building it was so packed. The energy inside was obvious - people are worried. Never before have I seen so many vehicles in the parking lot with custom graphics that were blatantly anti-Obama. People are pissed, and they see bad times ahead. They're fed up with working their butts off 70 hours a week so that Obama/liberals can hand more and more of it to lazyasses who think we owe them an easy life that doesn't involve work.

No Patty, the gig is about up. Even if Obama wins, the gig is about up, because people are sick and tired of the liberal mindset destroying this country.

I watched the 3 debates. I am more now than ever convinced that Obama should be our President for the next four years. I firmly believe in his convictions and sincerity for the middle class, women, education, foresight for natural resources right here under our feet, wind & solar power, foreign affairs and the health & welfare of the American People. What I see in this man is true compassion, I see foresight, I see diplomacy with direction, I see a man with patience but conviction. I see a man with definite goals that need comradary amongst all our voted in personnel. I see a man that wants and needs citizens understanding and seeing a vision to bring America back to its stregnth and vigor and proud to be American.

Patty, it's time for you to get new glasses.

---I am talking about both parties. The Demo's are blatant socialists. They are the party of "redistribution." ---The Repub's can say all the right things but when elected they maintain the status quo. Bush had a Repub senate and house and instead of a smaller gov't we got a massive increase. I realize that the 2 major parties are all about pandering for votes and NOT about doing what is best for the country. That is not an accusation...it is just their track record. ---Neither party will cut spending. Neither party will lower the national debt or the annual deficit. Sooooooooo...expect the obvious. We will have a poor economy. We will have increased inflation. (I just got a supplier memo about another 5% price increase.) The dollar will go down in value compared to commodities & foreign currencies...Some foreign currencies are also going down as well. The Fed will continue to print paper currency devaluing the dollar. The debt will increase until interest on the national debt alone will exceed all revenue. ---Some are looking ahead and seeing the massive ponzi scheme are preparing for a possible collapse, martial law, rioting, food shortages, etc. I mean how much can you charge on you Visa card before the entire house of cards collapses? For example: If I make 50k/yr can I carry 320k on my Visa card? Can I service the debt? If I make 50k can I continue to spend 60k? ---GDP for 2011 was about 15 trillion. Tax revenues were about 2.3 trillion. The gov't spent 3.6 trillion. The national debt was then 14.7 trillion. Does this suggest a day of reckoning is fast coming? ---Gun sales are at an all time high. I wonder why?

Lanny

Your so right twill....However, don't you think it matters which factions' clone is plopped in there?

C'mon Tom. We are ALL qualified to be President of the USA. Easiest job in the world!

You just do what you are told to do by the "men in black" (go debate and act like you care, for example)

It's all smoke and mirrors. If something happnes to the Clone, get another one. It's what we do......replace the clone every four years

Patty, you said "I see... I see... I see... I see..."

You need to clean your glasses.