Exposed nails

Figured i would ask a roofing related question - I know in the other thread you guys are probably thinking i am a freakin nut - Well sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont.

What do you guys do -- I know you are going to say rip it up when you see it slow down etc.... But come on your going to get some eventually and even if you do not what about face nailing ridge when coming past a dead end dormer -- GAF is saying they do not want any exposed nails and you need to rip the shingle out and replace -- I have always pulled the nail lifted the shingle squirted some pookey under and called it good not one problem in 20+ years -- (Pookey = GEOCELL)

Or face nailing Pookey it.

We always cut a 1" square piece of matching shingle and goo and cover.

" ---I am not sure why I should worry about exposed nails on the ridge... We leave exposed nails on the ridge when installing the last piece. Who cares? Someone going to see it??? From the ground??? Going to leak??? I have seen the entire ridge nailed with exposed nails on roofs that we were tearing off that were 20 years old. The nails were rusty but so were many of the shingle nails that were not exposed. Lanny"

Very well-put! You are the man, Lanny. We COMPLY with current convention and blind-nail our ridge, but for many years it was standard industry procedure to pin-nail the ridge with 3d hdg nails ('box' nails, not fat-head roofing nails) AND it was even required in areas of high wind. You can achieve excellent results with copper or stainless if you don 't like the idea of hdg or even (!!!) eg. We CAN choose to submit to current practice...that's fine. And the fact is, not doing so is not worth the trouble as it stands now. But any of us who have been around the block...and I mean completely around the block... KNOW that this face-nailing issue, this goo and sprinkle issue, all of it... is pure, unadulterated horse-puckey. There is nothing to debate. Has nothing to do with any opinion- manufacturer, engineer, "expert" or otherwise. It's all baloney. Period. You don't even have to believe me. If there's no truth in something, I invest in it for one reason and one reason only: to save unnecessary wasted effort and grief.

Well, Its pretty silly to have to do this but you CAN cut the last ridge piece, bend it to the shape of the roof slope, apply plastic roof cement to the underside and stick that sucker down. No nails required this way. lol

Robby, we also use those nails. We call them "grommet nails." Lanny

I agree with lanny....about the face nailing, not much problem around here. When I finish a roof, I install my last ridge cap piece with a 3/4 inch ribbed handnail with a rubber washer...we call them rubberheads/neo-nails. If there is a final inspection from a municipality, they pass it knowing there is a gasket on the nail...otherwise it won't pass until we caulk the face nail.

Vaa -- It was i changed goo to poo and sprinkle -- His other posts says hes done it as well thats goo only though :laugh:

minnesotaroofin Said: - And they wont let you poo and sprinkle - On the ridge, vents, stacks, flashings it is acceptable to poo.

You would NOT be aloud to do this on my roof... :laugh:

Yes i have done the goo and sprinkle before as well -- Problem is here one exposed nail and it will not pass inspection - And they wont let you poo and sprinkle - On the ridge, vents, stacks, flashings it is acceptable to poo.

You guys should see some of the new construction crews nailing 2x4's right through the shingles for walk boards Because they do not charge enough to buy roof jacks. The out state guys swing from ropes tied off to pipe stacks cause they cant afford to buy 2x4's and 16's.

Vaa, That's what I do also. I even do it on wood shingles I just use saw dust, On slate I make a powder from the slate.

---I am not sure why I should worry about exposed nails on the ridge... We leave exposed nails on the ridge when installing the last piece. Who cares? Someone going to see it??? From the ground??? Going to leak??? I have seen the entire ridge nailed with exposed nails on roofs that we were tearing off that were 20 years old. The nails were rusty but so were many of the shingle nails that were not exposed. Lanny

I do the same,either gum it or face nail and gum,which ever holds it down better..

True confessions of a roofer? lol Well, If your still working on the roof its pretty easy to change the shingle while you and the shingles are both still there and thats the best way to fix it. If its after the fact and you dont have the shinlges there then of course it would be easier to just pull the nail and seal under it. Thats your midrange solution. Worst thing you could do is leave it unattended but if you do would you please give them my phone number a few years later. I need all the repair dollars i can get. I've got a good friend who would like to stain and re-paint the ceiling also. lol