Colorado Fires

We've had a fire burning across the valley, aprx 7-8 miles away now, for an hour.....Still no response.....Just guessing; Watched it grow from 10-20 acres to 50+ now...Thank God the winds' been blow'n back on it!

Don't mess with mother nature. She always wins.

Goodbye to Mountain Forests?

By HILLARY ROSNER

When the smoke finally clears and new plant life pokes up from the scorched earth after the wildfires raging in the southern Rockies, what emerges will look radically different than what was there just a few weeks ago. According to Craig Allen, a research ecologist with the United States Geological Survey in Los Alamos, N.M., forests in the region have not been regenerating after the vast wildfires that have been raging for the last decade and a half.

Dr. Allen, who runs the Jemez Mountains Field Station at Bandelier National Monument, says those forests are burning into oblivion and grasslands and shrub lands are taking their place. “Rising temperature is going to drive our forests off the mountains,” he said.

During two presentations at environmental conferences in Aspen, over the weekend and on Monday morning, Dr. Allen sketched a bleak picture of how climate change is redrawing Southwestern landscapes.

Using data from tree ring studies, scientists have reconstructed a history of fires in the Southwest. The wildfires of the past were frequent and massive, but they stayed close to the ground and mainly helped prevent overcrowding. Take 1748. “Every mountain range we studied in the region was burning that year,” Dr. Allen said. “But those were surface fires, not destroying the forest but just keeping an open setting.” Cyclical wildfires were the norm.

But beginning in 1900, when railroads enabled the spread of livestock, cattle devoured the grassy surface fuels and the fire cycle stopped. A decade later, a national policy of forest fire suppression formalized this new normal. Over the next century, forest density went from 80 trees per acre to more than 1,000.

Then in 1996, the climate emerged from a wet cycle into a dry one — part of a natural cycle for this region. Winters became drier. And “we immediately began seeing major fires,” Dr. Allen said.

With so many trees crammed into the forest, fires climbed straight to the canopy instead of remaining on the ground.

“These forests did not evolve with this type of fire,” said Dr. Allen. “Fire was a big deal in New Mexico, but it was a different kind of fire.” The result, he said, is that the species that now live there — ponderosa pines, piñon, juniper — cannot regenerate, and new species are moving in to take their place.

“Ecosystems are already resetting themselves in ways big and small,” Dr. Allen said. The challenge for managing these ecosystems, he said, is to try to help them adapt.

Seeking to preserve existing systems is futile, he said

I left Ft Collins last Thursday. Hunkered down here in Colo Springs off Cresta. Had a Unit off Exit 161 Lewis High-school. Just moved that one over here.

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346 homes in Colorado Springs....A couple hundred up by Ft. Collins....A few years ago, (the "Hayman" fire, as it's called), we had pre-vac status at our home, just north of the AF Acadamy....Had the guys move our toys/valuables out, as we were in Wis. at a race.

Tom, The Lovely Mrs Ciak and I have been out here working these fires since the 10th. It looks like we will be out here for at least another 10 days +. I have heard some pretty horrifying stories from people who have been burned out and affected by these wild fires. B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

Cloud seeding and big monied vested interests. Look where the big moneyh is, and then see how much they are spending on seeding the clouds to get the rain to fall where the money sits. The rest of the west will burn. Water will flow uphill towards money. Sorry, but that is the truth.

I don't know of any of the fires that are "related", other than they're all wildfires.????? :S

After a couple hours of radio discussion and fly-overs, (small plane & chopper), they finally got a tanker up there and got it under control....Whew!

Is it unrelated to the rest of the fires?