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December 17, 2013 at 6:37 p.m.

Roofguy

Never been a fan of it. I was a member 30 years ago and found out that you can be the worst roofer in the state and still maintain a good rating, so long as you respond to complaints. You don't have to satisfy the complainant, just respond.

I joined the BBB again last year because a customer asked if we're members. First time in decades that anyone asked. We have an A+ rating, and did virtually nothing to earn it.

I only have it because a minority of customers thinks it's important and serves a purpose - I don't.

Your thoughts?

December 20, 2013 at 12:41 p.m.

TomB

Extortion/ransom....that's about right!

Noticed a BBB search result, in a nearby city, depicting our company as having a "disconnected phone" and "this company is not accredited by the BBB".

Just sent them an email requesting they remove the erroneous info and coincidentally, we ARE indeed accredited BBB.

We had maintenance/storage shop/yard there years ago in which we cancelled/closed the phone number account long ago.

They'll try any angle.....

December 19, 2013 at 6:47 p.m.

OLE Willie

I "repair" what BBB member companies with A plus ratings "fixed" every day! :dry:

December 19, 2013 at 1:12 p.m.

GKRFG1

Never paid the ransom. They call every month saying that my company has been looked up and that I should join. I check my rating and others regularly and have decided that if some of these clowns carry an A rating they don't need my money.

December 19, 2013 at 7:17 a.m.

tinner666

BTW, the BBB lists me at A+.

December 19, 2013 at 7:16 a.m.

tinner666

Hey, Roofguy! Please Edit your post and clear up my typo's! Aaargggh! I hate them and didn't proof read this morning. :laugh: :ohmy: Cops are like that around here. I was in a prohibited area yesterday and when I came out, a cop was parked beside my truck. I got my weapon out and reholstered it and he just nodded 'Good day' to me.

The client is a recent widow and I'm sure she was targetted. The guy claimed her husband often hired him. I'll probably be giving statements to the PD and court testimony about his 'workmanship', etc.

December 19, 2013 at 6:55 a.m.

Roofguy

tinner666 Said: I havent used them in many years. Funny thing happened this week. I was two weeks late getting to one client. A con artist hit her the day before I arrived. Botched her roof, stole her money, etc. Anyway, Im trying to comfort her when her daughter shows up. She started in on me and who I was, etc. I said G was her friend, along with referrals. She said that wasnt good enough. I finally pulled out my wallet and handed her my Utah CCW permai and asked if she had any idea what i had to go through to get that??? B)

She looked at it for a few moments, turned to her mother and said Hes OK! :) Turned to me and said she had one too. :)

That's funny. I've been pulled over while carrying a half dozen times and you'd be surprised how little the cops are worried about it. I guess they know the extensive background check involved.

December 18, 2013 at 9:34 p.m.

tinner666

I haven't used them in many years. Funny thing happened this week. I was two weeks late getting to one client. A con artist hit her the day before I arrived. Botched her roof, stole her money, etc. Anyway, I'm trying to comfort her when her daughter shows up. She started in on me and who I was, etc. I said G was her friend, along with referrals. She said that wasn't good enough. I finally pulled out my wallet and handed her my Utah CCW permit and asked if she had any idea what I had to go through to get that??? B)

She looked at it for a few moments, turned to her mother and said "He's OK!" :) Turned to me and said she had one too. :)

December 18, 2013 at 9:25 a.m.

Roofguy

I joined in Fort Worth because a new customer, who is a billionaire, asked me if we were members. In hindsight, I shouldn't have let him influence me to join. Ironically, he was the worst customer we've had in a long time - we had to argue for every check - and he totally ignored the "cash on completion" terms we agreed to in our contract.

I finally got annoyed with him and told him that the time to negotiate payment terms was before he signed the contract that said "terms: cash on completion" at the bottom, not after the job was done. He was offended by that, I didn't care at that point. I won't do another roof for him.

He was belittling to us, which was disappointing given his rags-to-riches story.

December 18, 2013 at 7:16 a.m.

TomB

I'm right there with ya on this one Roofguy......I pretty-much ran with the herd years ago.....NRCA, local chapter roofing associations, home bldr assoc's, chambers, the whole typical bit.....

I recently, (grudgingly), joined a BBB purely for the unwary consumers out there. Some of them do hold stock in BBB & the like membership....I did have one client recently tell me that they got our name through the BBB.....Who would've thought?

December 18, 2013 at 7:04 a.m.

OLE Willie

I ran a full service roofing company for 12 years. Joined the BBB upon opening and maintained an A plus rating the whole way. Ultimately that business became unprofitable and I had the corporation dissolved. Had an A plus rating upon closing as well. In my area it was helpful to be a member in order to get leads and close full replacement sales.

As most of you know, I started a new business as a "repair specialist" which I've ran for the last few years. I did not join the BBB this time and I've found that with the repair business it is totally unnecessary.

I've had only a couple of clients ask if I was a member. Upon me saying no I'm not because even storm chasers and companies that use illegals have an A plus rating with their system, the clients just said "Oh, I see, where do I sign?" ;)

December 18, 2013 at 5:31 a.m.

twill59

I don't subscribe. I did up until last year. I've subscribed about 3 yrs. of my whole career .

They know nothing about my business but give me an A rating. I might be the worst roofer, biggest tax cheat and worst credit risk. They have no idea. They've never asked any serious questions or.......anything

Right now ADVERTISING with them is just a following the Herd mentality which proves nothing

December 17, 2013 at 8:56 p.m.

clvr83

Same. You can pay for performance.

Also, like any rating system can be skewed. We had a local business get us a B rating about 10 years ago because they said we didn't pay a $300 bill, where we had the cashed check to prove it. They complained, BBB got monet.

I got a BEYOND ODD post card from some corporation talking about how it was a huge scam. This was about 3-4 years ago.


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