My feelings not only go there to Arizona but here to Pennsylvania. I am an immigrant child from Scotland. My father came here at 50 a former accountant to a janitor job for my family that he loved 6 months prior to our arrival. We all went through the inoculation, paperwork, family disturbance and then followed through with our ciztenship. I am an AMERICAN CITIZEN, the right way. These FKRS that want our liberties and benifits for nothing AND HELP DRAIN our society have NO, did you hear me, NO sympathy from me. YOU ARE WELCOME THAT IS WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT BUT DO IT RIGHT. If your leaving country makes it difficult take it up with them NOT US.
And for you lazy Americans that would rather sit around and let the illegals take our jobs SHUDDUP!!
As for the ID thing in Arizona, sorry I got distracted. FCK it. Do you know I was asked for ID 3 times last week. Once by my bank, I went to a satellite not my normal, thank you. Again at 2 stores where I used my credit card, thank you. I got ID'd today, thank you.
It is a bunch of CHIT, if your legal show your ID. This profiling garbage is warranted because garbage is out there. Love ya, PC
Deporting illegals is done all the time; from all countries in the world. Habing to deport a lot of them is just a sign that we have not addressed the problem for a long time. What would you do if you found 4 or 5 people who were not your children living in your house or in your yard and eating your food? A lot more than what we have done as a nation. Politically correct or not, if we can't or won't enforce our borders, we will NOT
This situation has nothing to do with race........it's all about the money (and voting power). It's a proven fact that the Hispanic vote will be a major player in upcoming elections and don't think these scumbag politicians don't know that. Personally I cannot conceive of deporting 12M people in any kind of orderly manner. We're stuck with the problem of turning them into Americans, whatever that procedure entails. Also I think all the border states should adopt Arizona's law. First we have to plug the borders........both ways, then we can do something about who's here and how to deal with them.
JET
Here is the question that I keep asking: Why are the local newspaper, Chicago ABC 7 News, The NY Times, the Republicant Party, the Democrap Party and many many others, including the US Government, amongst other government entities, RACIST?
I ask because by giving preference to the illegals they are committing economic warfare and injustice to African Americans and other unemployed, or under employed legal citizens of minority status.
Yes RACISM is alive and well and being practiced by the MSM and those in power
um,it was 2 mexicans and A scumbag contactor that employed them that gotmy job.not wall street or bernie or tyco or AIG or any other guise you wish to apply.
These FKRS that want our liberties and benifits for nothing AND HELP DRAIN our society have NO, did you hear me, NO sympathy from me. YOU ARE WELCOME THAT IS WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT BUT DO IT RIGHT. If your leaving country makes it difficult take it up with them NOT US. "
Illegal immigrants are not DRAINING our society the majority of them work hard. The wall street people are. They start this campaign against the illegal immigrants to keep the public attention away from their crap .Tell me an illegal who screwed people over $50 billion like bennie mardoff did.The illegal immigrants didn't caUSE the housing crisis.They aren't the ones exporting the jobs to China while the white executives are still collecting yearly multi million dollar salaries.
Mexicans would'nt even get close to the shrunken gene pool of walmart shoppers here in South LA........ and that's a fact :laugh:
If you look at any border city, you will find a clumping of US retailers standing ready for Mexican shoppers. Dollar Stores, Walmarts, JcPenney, you name it. This means that the whole purpose of the wall is to keep out Mexicans that somehow can't pass for a Walmart shopper (scary thought) and overstay. So I don't understand the wall theory.
all I can say is,is she single?or,does she need A bdy guard?I'll work for room board and A better united states.I never thought I'd want to see a politician in person unless they were bleedng on the ground from beat down. ad finally,one who doesn't need the stupid beat out of her.
Good Morning Minn, Back in the 70's I lived in Canada and they had a program because of all the draft dodgers that drifted to Canada to come forward, be legal on the books. I did that, not as a draft dodger but I was illegal, I came forward, worked, paid my dues but returned to the states. I didn't want this post to focus on Mexicans, I wanted to focus on the legitimacy of residency.
Anyway, in total agreement, too many businesses are hiring illegals. Big time here in PA. Not necessarilly in the roofing trade but my area in particular is vegitation. I'm in south central Pa a huge fruit area. Your eating my apples & peaches as I am eating cheese from Minnesotta. I personally don't care who does the work but be legal, belong.
2ndGen this is not going away. This governor has the Chits like many. Sometimes you have to make a stand to get the attention. SHE DID IT.
I agree with 2ndgen - Make them pay like the rest of us or deport them all - So funny how these company owners are against the illegals - yet look the other way to make a buck by hiring a sub with a crew of them to take liability off of them.
Look at it this way if you lived in a hut and could move to canada and make 3 times as much and get away with it would you?
Oh, and "on topic", The Arizona Law has been deemed un-Constitutional already.
If they weren't hired, they wouldn't be here.
It's the American Contractors who hire them that should be deported and stripped of their citizenship for providing them with the work that should be going to American Citizens.
You can't knock the man who's trying to earn a living. It's The Americans who hire them that are the facilitators. Yet rarely if ever do you hear people complaining about them. Throw them all out...the illegals and the Contractors who hired them.
The laws are on the books to handle this situation. I ask you all, why do you think the laws aren't enforced?
Can't blame the illegals for that. I don't blame the illegals. I blame the crooked American Contractors who hire them.
I guarantee you this, if you gave them Amnesty like Reagan did in the 80's, they'd all become American Citizens and they'd be happy to earn a fair wage and they'd be happy to pay taxes.
If we as a country aren't going to do that, then we should just deport them all.
Think of all the dramatic changes the roofing industry has had to go through because illegal roofers changed the landscape. We got out of residential roofing over 25 years ago due mostly to the fact that it is so easy/cheap to get set up to nail on shingles that illegals overwhelmed the sector and drove prices too low.
Which bring me to a major per peave of mine. I'm getting sick and tired of hearing mindless dopes saying illegals do the jobs Americans won't do. Bullhockey!!! They do a job for a cheap price that the rest of us can't match. This may come as a complete surprise to them but an awful lot of roofers, myself included, consider roofing to be a craft that they enjoy doing. I actually enjoy monkeying plastic cement, or laying a parapet flashing, and I take pride in the fact that, back in the day, I was better with a spraywand than anyone who ever lived (as far as I know lol). I STILL take price in the absolutely perfect straight-as-a-ruler wall flashing that you can still see from the street on the Baptist Church in Spur Texas fully 28 years after I installed it. I knew instinctively what 12 gallons per square was, and I was one of 4 people I know in the US who had the finesse with the cutback wand to spray a 3-tab shingle in prep for embedding cermaic granules so smooth and precise that a roof consultant in Colorado Springs, standing on that roof, could not tell it wasn't a new shingle.
Roofers will do the work, they just can't do it for $20 a day!
And you thought life was supposed to be fair! It is getting worse too. We don't have many children and it only takes one generation to tip the scales. It has been about 2 generations since the birth control pill became availible. The White race is going down fast as it has less than a 2 child per family birth rate.
You have much the same situation in China now. they ahd the 1 child per family rule ther for about 25 years. There are about 20 million more men than women over there of marrying age now. Sounds like a good situation for a homosexual. I wonder how that is working out?
Not just Arizona, this has been growing countrywide. You will hardly see anyone but mexicans in any form of labor business here in California. They may start out illegal, but all they gotta do is pop out a kid and that kid is a legal US citizen.
Now, within a generation or so, the "legals" own car dealerships, insurance agencies, contracting firms, etc etc. Oh, not to mention getting all the govt jobs as well as becoming elected officials. Who's interests do you think those elected officials are there to represent?
Even many businesses don't want to hire you unless you can speak english and spanish, since that is a large part of their customer and employee base. The pwb (poor white boy) is f----d, people. It will soon be us picking grapes for min wage while all the good jobs go to minorities who got free ride college educations YOU were forced to pay for.