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December 20, 2011 at 8:02 p.m.

TomB

(As if we really need any others than China)....Anyhow,....

Purchased a couple of items at a Walmart. As I was exiting the store, a spanish-speaking women was possibly asking if i had a receipt, (i.e.,"reeceet-reeceet?"). I said yes I did & proceeded out the doors. I was then accosted outside in the crosswalk by another alleged employee. Again, by a non-English speaker; "Rahceet? Rhaceet?...I again said yes i did....He grabbed my arms...I managed to wrestle free without injurying him....He then snatched a tv out of my basket & ran into the store with it. I called the cops in order to retrieve my property....I instructed the officer that i wanted to file charges for assault & robbery...The officer refused.....I was physically assaulted, unlawfully contrained/detained, strong-arm robbed and defamed in public....I'm searching for the appropriate law firm. It's winter, work is slow, so i have the time.

January 11, 2012 at 7:13 a.m.

wywoody

I think the reciept request from Tom was part of a shoplifting scam. They get a reciept, shoplift the items, return the items with the reciept and get cash. The only thing required to pull it lff is a Walmart polo shirt. I bet that there's less than two degrees of seperation among most of the lower classes to a friend or cousin that used to work at Walmart and has the required shirt.

January 9, 2012 at 10:14 a.m.

dougger222

I've been trying to stay away from wally world for several years now. My wife goes there and buys food with the wallmart label and I won't eat it. Most of there products are made in China and I feel a lot of their food is also made overseas.

As far as sueing wallmart for your treatment it may be tough. I bet what happened to you happens to people everyday who buy products from the store only to be bothered by store personal.

What wallmart you shopping at? Mexico...

January 9, 2012 at 8:29 a.m.

Roofguy

If you cannot show your receipt the item is stolen.

I wouldn't go that far. If the item was paid for, it wasn't stolen...regardless whether the customer shows a receipt.

I have no problem with employees wanting to see a receipt. As you say, it's the price we all pay for thieves. However, it's an imperfect system they use and I've seen those alarms go off many times as I leave the store with goods I've paid for. It's ok then for an employee to approach me and ask for a receipt, and I'll coopertate with that...but if he grabs me by the arm he'll find himself on his arse in a hurry.

Again, I agree with asking to see a receipt, but I don't agree with the guilty until proven innocent mentality that you seem to have above.

January 9, 2012 at 12:29 a.m.

lanny

---If you have ever worked as a store security guard and seen the amount of shoplifting that takes place in broad daylight you would be more friendly to guards that have to confront crooks every day. ---If you cannot show your receipt the item is stolen. You have to prove you have a right to remove store merchandise from the store. That is called a receipt. It is not your word against their's. It is a receipt or it is stolen. ---I am sick and tired of people ripping off stores and making the rest of us pay for it. I would have congratulated the guards! ---I know a Home Depot where a certain group would get off the bus in front then walk into the store then rob the store in plain sight and get back on the bus. For fear of lawsuits, injury, and general mayhem the store employees were told to not do anything. It was obvious these people were not going to purchase anything the moment they set foot in the door and the employees knew it. "Racial profiling..." "Age profiling." "Bus profiling." ---Hooray for Wal Mart guards. At least they are catching some shoplifters. ---By the way whenever I leave Costco I HAVE TO SHOW my receipt before I can get out the door!!! Lanny

December 28, 2011 at 11:00 a.m.

glassemulsion

Nice gonna look good, i like the new flat fenders they put on those gives them old feel personality.

December 28, 2011 at 5:41 a.m.

Roofguy

My TJ is bone stock now, but that begins to change this week wiht the lift and wheels & tires.

Below that is me and my brothers in my '80 CJ5 which I bought new. It had the 304 V8 and 4 speed and was a blast. I had that thing stuck a jillion times - in fact we got in stuck in the river in Dodge City, KS about 30 minutes after that pic was taken.

I rolled that Jeep at Ford County Lake in about '82.

December 28, 2011 at 1:17 a.m.

glassemulsion

Self-righteous!!!! :laugh: A simple you are right I made a mistake was all you had to say. But because you have no answer for your behavior the discussion is over? You must be a left wing liberal who is always right but never has the right answer your way or no way.(expecting some flak for bad mouthing liberals because I'm so self righteous.) ;) We all make mistakes admitting thems the hard part. So you have been sued so sue someone else. Growing up my dad taught me there is honor between men we stand up for what we believe in and always live by our word. Since I started my roofing co. 7 years ago I've learned that's been stripped away and thrown in the dumpster. Most wealthy men are sharks looking to cheat,lie,and steal there way to riches. You call me self-righteous is that what being honest is these days. There are times to fight wal-mart employees is not one of them.

Tim I do still have the bronco still dumping money into it just put in a new tranny shifts hard now, getting ready to install new 4.27 gears and new Detroit locker in rear with 31 spline axle's post some pics of that TJ.

December 27, 2011 at 7:26 p.m.

TomB

WM is private property, open to the public, (WM aggressively entices the public to 'shop' there)....U.S contitutional rights have no premise.

Your attemps to twist/spin this for your own entertainment have already exhausted my interest in any further discusions. on the topic.

It is what it is. We can agree to dissagree.

BTW; I feel a bit ashamed that I "shopped" at Walmart at all. Shame on me, in the 1st place!

BTW2; It is MY choice to shop at a store that requires multiple "receipt" checks. I do at Costco & Sams only.

In retro-specht, if that should ever happen again, rather than call for the police, I may decide to take whatever means neccessary to subdue the assailant & retrieve my property...After whiich I may phone for the police. ;)

December 27, 2011 at 6:01 p.m.

Roofguy

Tom, many of your constitutional rights and Bill of Rights rights cease to exist the instant you enter private property (Walmart). Your freedom of speach, as an example, can be limited by the proprietor. Your Second Amendment rights can be totally eliminated. Your very "right" to be there is subject to their approval.

You're waging personal freedoms against the freedoms/rights that business owners have. Why would your personal freedoms supercede those of the property owner? They don't, and they shouldn't. You're making this an argument for freedom and liberties, but the real argument you're making is pitting one freedom against another.

As an owner of car washes for 13 years, countless times I was told by irate customers that I was violating their right to privacy when my 15 security cameras caught them doing something stupid. Countless times I explain to them that their right to privacy ends at my property line, as do many other rights.

It's a matter of practicality. If you make a scene at every store that askes for a receipt on your way out, it won't be long until you have very few places you can shop. If a customer makes a scene, he might get away with it, but only once, because I'll tell him not to return.

December 27, 2011 at 4:56 p.m.

TomB

My O' my! Are we self-rightous or what? And to think, some of you may be so against state contractor licening! Here is a clear & undeniable case of 'abuse', (for lack of other words). Technically; Assault & robbery/theft. Most argue only gov't employees are liable for constitutional rights issues. Otherwise this would be a tremendous case.

Here's how it works; When money is exchanged for goods, the goods are yours. Period. Producing any 'receipts' or the likes are strictly voluntary. It's different if one is engaged in some specific purchasing agreement, such as with Costco or Sams.

A "receipt" is not relevant, as the accuser must have reasonable proof of theft/larceny.....In this case that was impossible, as I purchased the items. What if I had no receipt? Would that entitle someone else to just HAVE my things?.....What does a receipt prove? I could've found the receipt in the parking lot, stole it from someone who just purchased something, found it in the store, etc....Your names' not on it! The only correlation that could possibly be made, is with a CC purchase! And then, credit card #'s would have to be verified. etc....

As an American I am free to the pursuit of happiness....Yes, 98% of people confronted with that insane sob would have simply submitted and probably done just about anything requested of them. Me, I don't take kindly to being accused of being a thief,...I don't like it when a stranger puts his hands on me...I especially don't like my rights as an American trampled on and my property forcably taken from me. That's just me.

As for "sue happy"; I've lost probebly a couple hundred grand over the years to frivolous lawsuits/litigations.....I don't particularly get excited about litigation...I just take the lumps to distance myself from the situation as quickly as possibly and try to pick better customers in the future. Get on down the road.

As for WM 'policy'...Both involved employees were way out of bounds. WM is sued a couple of times every day! There is HUGE exsposure for lawsuits arriving out of falsly accusing people of larceny/shoplifting.

Everyday, I have to be responsible for my business...Walmart should be in charge of theirs! If they're that worried about shoplifing, then put the check-out at the door, &/or require ALL receipts checked at the door, search your car as you leave the parking lot, whatever....

December 27, 2011 at 5:54 a.m.

Roofguy

Glassemulsion is right, you can't punish an employee for store policy. And I think technically, you don't own the item until you leave the store if not their property. I guess it's the price we all pay for theives.

Just yesterday the alarm doohickie went off as I was leaving Gander Mountain with a new Glock 19 and Crimson Trace. I half expected it so I just turned around and walked back in toward the checkout where none of the employees even noticed me. I looked at a customer in line, he looked at me and shrugged, I shrugged, and I walked out again. The alarm went off again and I just kept going.

Btw, the employee sold me the wrong CT. I struggled for an hour getting it installed and it didn't fit right. Called CT and sure enough, they don't have a CT for the Gen 4 G19 yet.

Hey Glass, you still into offroading? I just picked up an '02 Jeep TJ a few weeks ago. It gets a 4" Rough Country lift and 33x12.50 Duratracs and Mickey Thompson Classic IIs this week. Next a full rollcage, winch, Ford 8.8 rear axle, and eventually a 350 V8 swap. Gonna be fun.

December 26, 2011 at 10:23 p.m.

glassemulsion

LMAO

December 26, 2011 at 8:17 p.m.

twill59

Geez when I see the Wal Mart commercials,....well gosh......they are really freindly, harmless folks. They smile and .... well... to tell the truth, I can tell.......they LOVE me!

December 26, 2011 at 6:41 p.m.

glassemulsion

WOW!!! So lets get this clear. You want to sue wal-mart because an employee did something wrong that he thought was right? You could have shown him the receipt and then went home and cried about it, but no! The world has become a sue crazy place. Everybody wants something for nothing. this guy didn't defame you. You defamed yourself had you shown your receipt you would have had no problem but instead you took the I'm above you approach. What has happened to the men in this world? There are times in our lives that define us. Maybe this guy was having a bad day. You were not injured or even defamed. What the other people at wal-mart are not going to look at you the same now. I don't mean to sound like an ass but I am tired of all this politically correct crap. As for what Tim said if you get grabbed by someone defend yourself against the man harming you not the company employing him.

THE RISE AND FALL OF TREEHOUSES AND MEN

December 21, 2011 at 8:46 a.m.

Roofguy

I can't say for sure what I'd have done, but I might have put the guy on the ground who grabbed me and made him wonder if his wrist was designed to bend that far.

You had broken no laws, and the property was paid for and legally yours once outside - I'm not an attorney but at that point I think you get to defend yourself, and in Texas you get to also defend your property.

If I were you I'd find a legal forum in your area and explain the story. I bet in 2 hours your e-mail box is crawling with attorneys who'd love to sue Walmart on this.


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