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A Texas Foam Roof.... RIP

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August 24, 2014 at 5:56 p.m.

theroofmedic1

Can it be fixed he asked... REALLY? To this day I don't understand how a property owner can allow his roof to deteriorate to this level.

September 29, 2014 at 8:50 a.m.

theroofmedic1

SPF is an awesome product... I do remember you advertising "Let the Foam Guys battle it out" when I bought my chopped fiberglass rig from you. I never stopped foaming and got more into the restoration of foam before I sold my company and moved to Texas.

I did use emulsified asphalt several times restoring foam. One of the biggest issues we ran into in the Phoenix market is many contractors would not have a minimum 1/2" pass and the heat generated from the emulsion mixed with over 120 degrees on the roof would literally curl the foam... It was a weird thing to see. I used to require all SPF restorations jobs be cored prior to excepting the project.

September 22, 2014 at 9:56 a.m.

Roofguy

Sorry, you are mistaken. Scarify the top, apply Black Primer, put another inch on and two coats of coating.

Sign them up for a roof maintance warranty.

Thats how they did the SuperDome. :)

Yep. Lots of options short of tearing it off.

If it is still bonded to the substrate after all these years, it probably always was. If by burnt you mean UV-degraded, yes that can create an adhesion issue, but in my experience, the powdery degraded areas pretty much disappear on their own as the degrade. Even hard rain knocks it loose. Scarily, prime, foam, coat.

Black primer not only gives a good surface to bond to, it also accelerates the drying of any moisture in the system. Emulsion asphalt will do the same thing and it adheres to just about anything. One of Henry/Permax specs calls for emulsion to be used as a base for new SPF.

Our new H-40 SPF rig is being started today; I pick up the 24' box truck for it tomorrow in Irving and deliver it to Phoenix for the rig build. I thank Tom Hay for opening my eyes about the potential for SPF.

September 2, 2014 at 11:13 a.m.

theroofmedic1

Tom- One section of the building's roof, the foam was installed over a asphalt and gravel roof, if the foam is burnt all the way to the asphalt and gravel roof and there are areas where the foam did not make a chemical bond, would you still try to save it?

Also, on the other section the foam was installed over a corrugated metal panel roof- burnt through and deteriorated down to the actual metal (in areas). Not sure if there is enough foam to scarify. Could you use the Black Primer then foam?

August 31, 2014 at 11:59 a.m.

TomHay

theroofmedic Said: Two things to think about, First the obvious, instead of just the cost to repair and maintain, they now have the expense of roof removal and a new roof installed. The SPF is burnt all the way through. Second, No insurance company will insurance this property without an exclusion of the roof or an ACV of less than 10%.

Sorry, you are mistaken. Scarify the top, apply Black Primer, put another inch on and two coats of coating.

Sign them up for a roof maintance warranty.

That's how they did the SuperDome. :)

August 25, 2014 at 6:00 p.m.

theroofmedic1

Two things to think about, First the obvious, instead of just the cost to repair and maintain, they now have the expense of roof removal and a new roof installed. The SPF is "burnt" all the way through. Second, No insurance company will insurance this property without an exclusion of the roof or an ACV of less than 10%.

August 25, 2014 at 5:10 p.m.

Mike H

theroofmedic Said: To this day I dont understand how a property owner can allow his roof to deteriorate to this level.

If it don't leak, don't fix it.

August 25, 2014 at 8:08 a.m.

spudder1

The foam roof is one of the best insulators that there is. however the old saying out of sight out of mind , the foam must be coated with a decent coating the sun will other wise do more damage, I guess he might decide to scarf the entire deck. add new foam where necessary. then install a decent coating along with some sort of maintenance program otherwise you'll haf to tear it off and start a new lol I take it this owner doesn't want to spend the bucks lol pay now or later lol B) B) B)

August 24, 2014 at 9:10 p.m.

Old School

And just what makes you think it is shot?? It hasn't rained in two years and it hasn't leaked right?


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