Texas - Last Bastion of Freedom Giving in To Collectivist Malcontents

Egg: Rush is a pillhead and a loudmouth. Cheap entertainment. Enough said.

But like all Cheap entertainment, it's very influential nowadays. Kind of Like Beyonce' meets Chuck Norris with a mix of Matt Lauer and Al Sharpton. :laugh:

It's easy to imagine Rush sitting around getting plastered with his Regulated Gazzilionaire Masters (Good boy Rush. Good boy) talking about the "little People" and what such trash we are.

But I don't. I 'll usulayy listen for a couple of minutes and then start thinking about Music. Or Women. or Roofing. Or Business. Or Life. Anything but ChickenHawks

I can't help but laugh Tim. My brother lives in Texas. And I 1st heard 'blame the Kalifornians" from him last year. (He too believes Jesus is the Governor and GOD created Texas separate from the rest of the world.) It's must be the latest Texas ego trip making the Talk Loud rounds down there.

If indeed Texas is not home of the worlds biggest welfare Queens and Big Government wanna bes, then pay us all back for your Iraqui War and your Afghanistan mis adventure. Then I'll believe that your war has indeed "accomplished its mission."

And who is the biggest panhandler and beggar for MORE Government ever (besides Ronald Reagan)? Umm that'd be Dubya!

It takes a Texan to pass the Patriot Act, spy on US Citizens and tap our telephones, evidently....

Roofguy Said: Freedom is only relative if you dont understand it completely, or if it is less valuable to you as a concept than is protecting profit.

Oh my gosh! Everyone is an entrepreneur? Oh the horror and excessive capitalism. :-)

Tom, coming from California, to Colorado, I wouldnt expect you to grasp what freedom is to Texans. We like it that way, in fact we wish more of those Kalifornicators would stop pouring into Texas and then immediately trying to model our state like the miserably failing state they ruined before they escaped.

Tom, there is a reason more people are flocking to Texas than are to Colorado or California. We create the most job at a time when other states are losing them. Its hard to argue that what we do here doesnt work.

Seriously. What industry has Texas created lately Tim?

Stealing jobs from other states is not the same as "creating" them. And this is not just a Texas thing. It's a nasty political game that all states play.

I just read where Gov. Perry paid like $50 Mil to buy, oops, I mean "create" 10 jobs. A nice little accounting trick....count ALL of the jobs the company "created" in ALL states and put them in the Texas column?

Whatever it is, "Freedom", "opportunity" , or "Bullshit" ...it's still stealing from the taxpayers....... nice Brylcreem Ricky. Must be expensive stuff! You'll be a good looking lobbyist or sex slave for your masters in your next career. You've done their bidding well....Go rest your butt for a while boy.

Roofguy Said: Freedom is a hard concept for many Americans to grasp. It has been bred out of us over time. We have been feeding at the government trough for so long that weve become addicted to regulatory help and are not self-reliant as a people any more.

For some, if there is a doubt about the right decision to make, their default reaction is to ask government to create a new law/statute to address it. For others their default reaction is to keep government out of it and find a solution themselves.

I just wish theyd stay away from Texas where were still a little free.

Hmmmmmmm.....they've never passed a law just for me. I must be one of the unwashed, un regulated It must take a LOT of money to join the ranks of the regulated. Just saying.... B) You know. Socialism for Capitalists, and capitalism for everyone else.

I get it. We all get it. We are all getting it....

Couple of things.

First, we're one of the few states (three all-told if I'm not mistaken) that doesn't require full tie-offs on six foot falls which is not nothing to my frame of reference when contemplating regulation.

Second, I wish more people would leave, whether it be to Texas or to anywhere else, because as far as I can tell, and I've been monitoring since I moved here at the age of four in 1952, they just keep coming, they love it here, and they are ruining it with their sheer numbers.

And, third, I take offense when people unfamiliar with the considerable inducements to intelligent living that this state still offers insist on wagging around the Rush Limbaugh type of windbag pronouncement that we are "Kalifornicators." It's not clever and it's not amusing and it's not helpful to any kind of serious dialogue.

I'm sure that I would find plenty of reason to like anyplace I lived, no matter how things stacked up there, and, unfortunately, as long as there are humans present with a full spectrum of personalities in the population, which there invariably is, it would be possible to find abundant evidence of fornication. That's just the way people are.

I'm sure Texas has plenty of it. Would hardly be a challenge to go there looking. Unbridled egos tend to generate fornication. We don't really need to degenerate into name-calling do we? This kind of feeling is good for generating jokes, like the one about the Californian and Texan who found the bottle with a genie in it. Remember that one? They're both given a wish, to be fair, and the Texan says, "Build a fifty foot high wall around my state to keep all the idiots out." The Californian says, "Ok, my wish, then: fill it up with water."

Roofguy Said: Just dont suggest that for Texas.

Just wondering if you would be willing for the state to hire more revenue agents so they could catch those tax cheats who aren't collecting the sales tax?

Yes Tom, the reason housing and wages are so low in Texas, is because the cost of living is so low. It's all relative. Having lived in Colorado, I can say that the quality of life is far superior in Texas.

If you want to spend 3 hours a week dealing with red tape, knock yourself out. Just don't suggest that for Texas.

Roofguy - Strictly from a financial aspect; Texas is a great place, so long as one is financially independent, or has an "angle", so-to-speak; And yes, there is so-called less regulation in the construction arena, which makes for a larger competitive pool of wannabe's.

There's a reason real estate, housing & wages are so low.

Freedom is only relative if you don't understand it completely, or if it is less valuable to you as a concept than is protecting profit.

Oh my gosh! Everyone is an entrepreneur? Oh the horror and excessive capitalism. :-)

Tom, coming from California, to Colorado, I wouldn't expect you to grasp what freedom is to Texans. We like it that way, in fact we wish more of those Kalifornicators would stop pouring into Texas and then immediately trying to model our state like the miserably failing state they ruined before they escaped.

Tom, there is a reason more people are flocking to Texas than are to Colorado or California. We create the most job at a time when other states are losing them. It's hard to argue that what we do here doesn't work.

Freedom is all relative. Take our neighbors to the south; They can do pretty-much anything entrepreneurial - anything goes, so-to-speak.

Years ago, my brother actually assisted with building a home for one of our employees down there. What a fricken mess! Everyone - I mean EVERYONE is an entrepreneur. It's a sort of inherent-cultural phenomenon. Unbridled regulation -

"Free for all to do as they please"! What a great concept - Not such a great outcome, or livelhood experience - That's what you get with true - absolute freedom.

Freedom is a hard concept for many Americans to grasp. It has been bred out of us over time. We have been feeding at the government trough for so long that we've become addicted to regulatory help and are not self-reliant as a people any more.

For some, if there is a doubt about the right decision to make, their default reaction is to ask government to create a new law/statute to address it. For others their default reaction is to keep government out of it and find a solution themselves.

I just wish they'd stay away from Texas where we're still a little free.

All I can muster is - naivety is bliss.....

Seriously though, there are so many dynamics at play, none of it is really worth any hand-wringing. It's going to be - what it's going to be, in any particular locale'. People just have to make there way in whatever social/gov't obstacles placed in their path.

wywoody - Yes , your absolutely correct! That makes my point of sorts; There is a state w/o contractor licensing, yet can be/is a general flustercuck, (to steal Mike's phrase); Far more complicated/corrupted than my experiences in Ca.

When I 1st moved to COLO. in 92', my barber had said, "Denvers' a dirty city".....He wasn't referring to the air quality.....And, he was right!

Tom, it's been 40 years since I worked in Colorado, but back then it was the most onerous government intrusive place I have ever encountered. Sure there was no state license, but that was more than offset by the fact every town dinged you for their own license. Denver required you to have an employee that could pass their "roofer test" before you could get a permit.

Although Oregon, with its own "continuing education" requirements may now surpass Colorado on the onerous government scale.

I think it's a mindset. American history is rife with innovators, free thinkers, those who are not good followers.

I'm not interested in proclaiming that I know the best way for everyone, any more than I want others telling me the best way for me. I'm the guy whose dang neck is on the line on a 15 year roofs warranty; I want to be the one who decides the best way to make the roof accomplish that.

More importantly, I don't need some building inspector, who was a framing contractor and failed, telling me how to put my dang roof on. Make sure I'm not endangering the public in what I do, then get the heck out of my way.

To be clear about what i mean by continuing on that path i mean....

You got to this point by objectively challenging the status quo, laying down all preconceived notions and searching for objective truth. Youve asked yourself at some point, "what if the opposite of what i know is true"? I say continue that eternally. This means these new understandings as well. Fear not that you will flop back and forth. With this approach real truths will stick and the picture will become more clear. If one never gives what one believes to be evil or wrong a chance to be opposite, one can never believe they are standing on a rock and the fullness of the power obtained by truly becoming can never be realized.

The have nots cannot possibly comprehend what it is to have but the haves have also the power of knowing both. How could the perspective of the one who only knows half be greater than that of the one who has experienced the whole of the two? Is it possible this is how we collectively come to the same conclusions that those above us are conspiring against us? Never stop reaching for the light. As we climb we find groups. The higher we climb the smaller the groups get. Never believe its time to stop climbing. Approach the source of our own intuition where we find no man.