You guys seen this roofer's video? He was just on Fox News. He has asked me to send him one of our Pmags.
His business is booming after the video - don't under estimate the gun community as a market. They are very loyal.
You have to admit it worked though Results speak a lot louder than our criticism. I thought it was funny as hell myself.
The roofer said his roofing co.'s "not a gimmick"....I thought he said that anyway
Who said it wasn't a gimmick?
Not a gimmick?....His sign says "Insurance Claim Specialists".....(say no more)
Roofguy Said:Old School Said:This article is pretty good: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449594/fifth-american-war-blue-state-vs-red-elites-vs-populists-egalitarianism-vs-liberty
I'm trying to read this. The author is quite an elitist. "Instead, it is the near-religious idea of egalitarianism that counts; on the global stage, it has all but won the war against liberty." REALLY? Equality and opportunity is the enemy. REALLY?
On four prior occasions in American history the country nearly split apart" ONLY four???
"In the 1960s, the hippie movement fueled by furor over the Vietnam War, civil-rights protests, and environmental activism turned holistic in a fashion rarely seen before" Ummmm....Or it could have been Westmoreland's body counts that pissed people off? LBJ insisting the USA was winning an unwinnable "war"? You know....government lies at the HIGHEST Level? Holistic.....or simply some form of sanity, that has yet to make a comeback?
"The hyper wealthy -a Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, or Warren Buffett -" poor examples in my opinion. These are the kind of wealthy that are disrupters, game changers and have earned theirs. NOT the CEO Leaches that arrived with a Degree in a "how to do things" claiming a Golden Parachute. Name Recognition is a HUGE factor when riling people up. It is also the state of our elections.
After reading and absorbing it for a couple of hours, it's clear to me that this is another article that dances around the problem. I guess that we are left to guess as to which side of the welfare equation he is on ( Welfare for the Right)
I can only come to this conclusion as he very deftly avoided the WHOLE FRIGGING issue of what the fighting is all about:
GOVERNMENT HAND OUTS
I am so tired of..........Nothing/everything/ all of it.
Old School Said: Eaten by ants! Is that worse than being eaten by the Piranha? Or being run over by the billions of people on the world all breathing the same air and competing for the same food supply and water? If we, the white race doesnt stop assisting all of them, we are going to be the ones wiped out. This world has become a cesspool of garbage and chemicals and pollution of all kinds. Something has got to give sooner or later, and it sure isnt going to be pretty. Are we going to be proactive, or just wait and see how it turns out?
Agreed. Americans are lazy thinkers, most of them. They lull themselves in false feeling of security because nothing really bad had happened before, and/or because they have not prepared for it. The term exponential describes our bounding toward bad times.
This article is pretty good: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449594/fifth-american-war-blue-state-vs-red-elites-vs-populists-egalitarianism-vs-liberty
Eaten by ants! Is that worse than being eaten by the Piranha? Or being run over by the billions of people on the world all breathing the same air and competing for the same food supply and water? If we, the white race doesn't stop assisting all of them, we are going to be the ones wiped out. This world has become a cesspool of garbage and chemicals and pollution of all kinds. Something has got to give sooner or later, and it sure isn't going to be pretty. Are we going to be proactive, or just wait and see how it turns out?
"Should hostilities once break out between Japan and the United States, it is not enough that we take Guam and the Philippines, nor even Hawaii and San Francisco. To make victory certain, we would have to march into Washington and dictate the terms of peace in the White House. I wonder if our politicians, among whom armchair arguments about war are being glibly bandied about in the name of state politics, have confidence as to the final outcome and are prepared to make the necessary sacrifices."
Japan never intended to attack the US mainland. Not sure if I can agree with that. By all accounts Japan never tried to win a head to head war vs the US. They wanted to keep a steady rythm of victories over them, while establishing a double layer of ring defences on the pacific (phillipines-marianas-marcus island was the inner, NG-solomons-Marshalls-wake-eastern aleutians was the outter) to convince the US that a counterattack was unfeasible. They never intended to invade the US mainland as such, as far as I can tell.
Midway was never in the initial plans of Japan when the war started. It was out of the twin concentric defence rings they planned to set up in the pacific, and too far from the mainland (and too close to Hawaii) to set an easy invasion. The reasons to attack Midway rested mostly in the aftermath of the doolittle raid over tokyo. Pearl Harbor had crippled the US battleline but their carriers were still unharmed, and Yamamoto wanted those carriers to be sunk at all costs. The attack on Tokyo was an insult to the Japanese armed forces (and the IJN in particular), and had been launched from carriers. And the US Carrier striking force was the only offensive weapon left in US inventory by then, so it only made sense to force a major battle to trap and sink them. Midway was intended to be that battle, the island was of secondary or even tertiary importance, what Yamamoto wanted was the US carriers...things turned out to be pretty different tho.
Had Midway been a Japanese victory what would've happened?...probably not much. Hawaii was out of the scope of probable (or even possible) japanese targets because it was almost unfeasible to successfully invade it-it would've overstretched the japanese navy to the point of rupture.
US mainland was completely out of question-the distances involved were extreme.Remember aswell that both to invade hawaii and/or the Eastern US a lot of troops would've been needed. The Navy did not have enough manpower to pull something like that (the Japanese Marine force was mostly based on regimental combat teams for amphib operations of limited scope), and the Army was:
1-Absolutely not going to cooperate with the navy, at least not easily (japanese Army-Navy rivalry was extreme, they fought each other constantly). That would mean that one of the key points of any long range invasion like Hawaii or US would be poisoned from the start -no interbranch cooperation meant the operation would be a disaster from the start.
2-already heavily commited both in China, Burma/India, and New Guinea. There was a hefty manpower reserve in Manchukuo but neither the Imperial staff nor the Army staff wanted to weaken that force too much because they wanted it to act as a deterrent against possible Soviet agression. The Japanese Army without taking large units out of Manchukuo-which was politically impossible to pull off, would've had no resources to mount a successful large scale invasion in the US Mainland.
3-Lack of proper amphibious resources. The japanese landings at the start of the war were doing against unprepared enemies, and using barely adequate ships as amphibious transports. To land in USA would be very very different than landing on, say, Legaspi. The scope of the operation would be much different, the ammount of troops to be landed ,too, the distances from the Japanese supply sources (the mainland) would be all the way across the pacific meaning enormous travel times for the supply convoys, and Japan had not enough ships to keep such a invasion supplied.
Those 3 points were well known for all the IMperial staff and of course by the IJA. They would've never agreed to such an operation. There's also the important part of intel and recce. It was nigh impossible for Japan to conduct a proper recconaisance over the US mainland, and it would've been very difficult to the point of almost impossible to conduct a proper research on the possible landing locations.
We all know the ammount of preparation work the landings on Normandy needed, and the immense logistical problems faced by the allied force in france afterwards after one of the mulberries was put out of order, cherbourg port destroyed by the germans, and Antwerp not captured until late in 1944. The japanese had quite a stretch of water to cross (quite bigger than the Channel), no Mulberries at all (they were an allied improvisation), and would've needed a similar or bigger ammount of troops to succesfully invade US mainland.
Nope-it was impossible. Japan never planned nor intended to invade the US mainland. It was well out of reach for them, and they always knew it.
...nothing good comes from the promulgation of the gun and macho culture.
Unless you like freedom. That gun culture is what prompted Admiral Yamamoto to caution Jap leaders against invading mainland U.S. A gun behind every blade of grass and all.
you live by the gun die by the gun
This really doesn't say anything. It applies to basically everything. You live by the car, you die by the car. You live by the cigarette, you die by the cigarette. It in no way means that the things that can kill you should be avoided. People are assumed to be smart enough to bend the odds in their favor and use "that thing" as a way to improve their odds, not make them worse. I have 4 million miles on the road, and while that means I'm exposed to bad wrecks (already had 1), it also means that my experience improves my odds of not having a wreck. Same with guns, I have a good bit of gun training and that has improved the chances that I can use my gun to prevent being killed by a gun.
Like it or not, it is an American culture and it isn't going anywhere.
Alba, We will always be able to agree to disagree if that is necessary. I dont believe anything is what it seems in this world, and the harder someone tries to convince me of something, the harder I push back. There are many secrets out there, and a lot of people with things that they are hiding.
of course, even though our political views are different and I feel like you're siding against your own interest I truly respect you and others in this forum for running a roofing business which is one of the toughest to run. AS chuck pointed out nothing good comes from the promulgation of the gun and macho culture. you live by the gun die by the gun.
Hell of a story, hell of a life Chuck. I remember when I was kid, maybe about 10 or so too, I got a BB gun.....I just had to run out and shoot (kill) something. Damn if I didn't nail a robin in her nest.
Made me sick. Never felt a desire to kill anything again. I do, from time to time shoot some vermin, raccoons and other varmints. Keep the rabies away. Protect my chickens ( and children). Bothers me a little bit now, but honestly....I hate the little f**kers.
I like birds.
I'd bang either one of them 1st ladies ;)
RE: Trumps wife...Pretty, Classy, smart, White, and a woman!
Carlin had it together. That man was funny as hell, but he spoke of the truth. Wow, way ahead of his time.
Chuck, sorry to hear about your experiences. That had to be tough. My upbringing wasn't any where near that traumatic, but all I ever did was work. I guess I was making up for the childhood my parents never got because of the depression.
Alba, We will always be able to agree to disagree if that is necessary. I don't believe anything is what it seems in this world, and the harder someone tries to convince me of something, the harder I push back. There are many "secrets" out there, and a lot of people with things that they are hiding.
I agree with egg on the majority of the subject material but sort of feel like I have no dog in the fight. At least not one that I have any power or control over.
I have to admit I laughed out loud several times whenever someone mentioned going off topic. I mean this thread went off topic like wayyy back.
Egg, if that's a "Short" story then I would hate to read a long one! lol I actually read that whole thing getting several different morals out of it.
It's not Whitey keeping down the black population but rather "Super Rich Whitey keeping down all the rest of the population". Which of course includes the vast majority of all peoples.
I personally don't like guns much but that's because I was standing beside my abusive step father as he was kicking in a door to get to my mother when I was ten years old. When the door flung open, she appeared in it with a 38 revolver and put an end to his pursuit to beat her up some more. My head was just a few inches away from where the bullet from the single shot entered his stomach because that's about how tall I was at ten. He fell to the floor moaning in disbelief that she had actually shot him. Continued to moan "She shot me", "She shot me" until it became a whisper and he went into a coma right there in the floor and died of internal bleeding two days later in the hospital.
Yes, the gun ended the abuse but it also sent her to the Alabama Prison for Women for a 10 year sentence. And it sent me and my sister to live with my Dad who about a year later decided he was going to make a Hunter out of me evidently giving no thought to what I had endured just a short year earlier. He took me out in the woods to shoot a shotgun for the first time and I could not do it and did not want to do it. That just angered him and he forced me to shoot the gun which I eventually did in absolute horror.
But even with all that said, I still don't have a problem with other people owning and shooting guns. Just remember live by the sword, die by the sword. Same goes with guns. In fact, this is exactly what happens way too often in the black community with black on black crime.
Likewise, I don't have a problem with people that choose to mix with other races but personally I prefer to stick with my own race for the most part. I do not feel like that makes me a racist because I judge individual people by how they are, not what color skin they have or what part of the world they come from. I also prefer women over men as sexual partners. If a man want's to be with another man or a woman with a woman then fine. That's up to them but you won't catch me sucking on another man's d**k or letting one suck mine. Doesn't mean I'm prejudice against gays or anything else other than the fact that I'm simply a heterosexual.
Anyways, here's the link to the George Carlin video again.