Residential Guardrails

Look closer. Kinda reminds me of my youthful careless days.

No cigar! Guess again!

Standing on the ice guard are we? Be careful we can't afford to lose you!

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Just thought I'd post a pic I recenlty took while working a 2-story slate roof. It turned out I have the wrong lenght hook ladder on the truck to get to one section. I hope improvision didn't violate any safety rules. :laugh: Look closely above my foot.

Tinner, what are you standing on?

Woody, it was nice having the scaffold there wasn't it? On a 4 or 5 12 we won't set scaffold but on most other things we will and do. It makes it safe and we don't need any ropes or rails and such. Of course the scaffold is fully back boarded. You would have to make a running jump to get over it. It is safer and in the long run faster. No risk either. PS We have a lot of scaffold. The OSHA planks are expensive as hell though.

That was definitely worth repeating Twill

Of course the self-employed still can. Once an employee is hired however, he is yours. ALL Yours.

Unless of course he files unemployment. Or make a Bias claim. Or files a Work Comp Claim.

Or files an EOE complaint. Or wants to unionize.

Or files a complaint w/ the NRLB. Or OSHA

Or if he wants to file a wage complaint. Or discrimination

Otherwise, you own him, you greedy bastard :side:

Of course the self-employed still can. Once an employee is hired however, he is yours. ALL Yours.

Unless of course he files unemployment. Or make a Bias claim. Or files a Work Comp Claim.

Or files an EOE complaint. Or wants to unionize.

Or files a complaint w/ the NRLB. Or OSHA

Or if he wants to file a wage complaint. Or discrimination

Otherwise, you own him, you greedy bastard :side:

Seems like we could rely on our own initiatives to me.

Woody, that is a good question. Naturally, he would be liable if something happened to the scaffolding because of his error, but I'm not sure about lack of safety measures. Any time a homeowner or new contractors go to use my ladder I let them know "You own that ladder until you get off it." I doubt that would save my ass in a courtroom, but they usually laugh.

Last summer I was working on a job installeing antiponding metal (a large drip edge) around the eaves of a big house. On the tallest side there was a scaffold in the middle leading up to the chimney that was having some work done on it. I wanted to use the scaffold for one end of a plank and have the other end on a ladder jack on an extension ladder. The mason was afraid to let me do it (even though we would be roped up) because he feared he would be liable for having no guardrail on the plank. My solution was to do the work on a Saturday when he wasn't there. But I still don't know if he would have any liability risk for me using his scaffold without a railing on the plank.

Sometimes you surprise me, Old School. A scaffold IS a guardrail, for Pete's sake. Nonetheless, putting up one of those on every place on every job would be asinine. If people are wearing fall arrest equipment, something that is also asinine in many cases, they obviously do not also need other types of paraphernalia as well. That would be gilding the lily, now wouldn't it. Or should I say gelding the lily? I decided some time ago that I would refuse being gelded. That probably makes me a marked man. Just a different kind of marked. They're not going to be able to find any telltale scar tissue in my nether region.

Gosh, this is a controversy. Just erect a scaffold around the job and you don't have to work around the guard rails.

We are Civil "Servants" :(

GKRFG Said: I think that they are one option. Some type of fall protection is required to keep your job sites from being crime scenes B)