Opening up a can of worms...

RandyB1986 Said: Is everyone a pimp now days?!?!? How many salesmen actually know how to install a roof now days.........not many of the guys around here, who own roofing companies have ever installed a roof, they dont know what to inspect for......other than dirty gutters :silly:

WOW, such a general statement. I partially own this company, have been a roofer for 20+ years and sell, inspect and pick up the final payment.

I beleive in only hiring from within the company, when you can. I also believe that salesman are salesman, roofers are roofers, and so on. However, the best salesman aren't selling anything except their expertise. You can't fool a homeowner if you don't know your chit, but most homeowners want to be sold to. How do you combat that? Anyway, that's another thread.

The Question: Do you inspect every job that your roofers work on? If not....How do you combat a lack in work ethics when crews are not being inspected? Yes, I do. Your crew forman should have the intestinal fortitude to let you the owner or management know if there is a lack of ethics going on in the crew. Then write it up, keep them focused on the end game or let them go. Nothing else you can do. Ethics are not learned, they come from within. Doing the right thing when nobody is looking is ethics. Beating your chest in front of people because you did the right thing is also wrong. Integrity is the only thing that you can take from yourself. Your wife, kids, possesions can all be taken away from others, Only we can take our integrity from ourselves..

I think I'm confused now.. :-)

Is everyone a pimp now days?!?!? How many salesmen actually know how to install a roof now days.........not many of the guys around here, who own "roofing companies" have ever installed a roof, they dont know what to inspect for......other than dirty gutters :silly:

I'm wondering why anyone WOULDN'T inspect the roof? If you are running two roofs a day, inspecting the final product will take you about two hours, including drive time.

I guess I would be able to inspect about 4 roofs a day and still have time to cash the checks.

every one,you gotta get the money right,not a good idea to have your men see payments either-imo

Having a manager do the inspection is fine, I was paid to do it. Some of the workers did not understand why I "over inspected", for that matter, couldn't believe how I can find the most hidden leak point on a roof that they did not catch.

I tell them, "If I want to keep my job, I have do it well...because my job is to protect the companies interest and reduce potential liabilities."

I inspect every roof.

Someday, when I cannot inspect every roof, I will have a manager inspect every roof.

Henry Ford hasn't inspected every one of his cars.....but someone that works for him does.

Yes. There is no combating a lack of "ethics" cos' my boys are thoroughly vetted BEFORE the situation arises.