Ever seen these installed? A job we just finished

Do they have the individual end caps for these or just j channel on the gables to? You can always do extra wide valleys in ice water or tile and metal underlayment we used tamkos on a tile roof awhile back.

I thought I had mentioned it before, we just pulled a lot of j channel valleys and redid them in the 80s when I was doing aluminum shakes in Houston and saw first hand what happens over time. We would have a two foot brake on the roof to brake our shingles in the valley it was slower but finished valleys would be wide open for drainage.

You had said that before Robert, and I appreciate the info. I asked my rep about it last time and he suggested not using open valleys unless your doing a batten system.

Nice looking roofs but J channel valleys are just temporary, leaves and debris will collect inside and damn it up. It will divert the water from the valley eventually with lots of trees sooner then you think. If your going to installing a lot I would suggest going with open valley systems, I have a hard time selling it as lifetime knowing the valleys will have to be redone in 10-12 years.

Correct. He is on the road all the time. too much for me, I hate to drive.

He's over by Warsaw, or Ft. Wayne I think. Just a drive down US 30 from me

Very possible. he has installed a lot of the Stone coated roofs.

I've met Tom Sands....or his Dad. They used to push Decra.....independent distributors, I think

These are entirely different than the shingle profile. Clover, talk to Tom sands and get his take on it! I know he has worked on a lot of them and is not just a "salesman"

We did the shingle profile clover. But for me, now? Nothing under a 4:12.

I can see why you thought that, but those were two separate statements. The 20sq roof is just a single homeowner with no other bids.

Manufacturer states 2.5/12, but that concerns me especially after Twill's thread a while back.

clvr83 Said: The whole roof is that pitch, roughly 20sq with a 4 skylight near the bottom.

Currently, there is a company from two hours away that gets all these roofs. Their website is borderline deceitful, but they sure do sell them.

Are you saying they have other buildings with this on? If so I would go for it.

If not I would wrestle with it just like you. You might ask them what they paid to have them done. I have people tell me what the other guys are bidding. Exspecially if they want me to do the work.

Clover, the "stitch" screws are in the vertical part of the shingle, and basically it is sealed by the combination of the granule coating and the Acrylic polymer adhesive. It is kind of like a SBS modified asphalt, but much stronger and harder. Like a pickup bed liner spray if you will. I would be more worried with the side overlap, but it does seem to seal well.

Lefty, you are so right. It is not for everyone and it does take some skill, but it will pay a lot more and it separates us from the pack.

The whole roof is that pitch, roughly 20sq with a 4' skylight near the bottom.

Currently, there is a company from two hours away that gets all these roofs. Their website is borderline deceitful, but they sure do sell them.

clvr83 Said: Excellent. Ive got to say that the exposed screws worry me just a bit, but Im guessing that if water penetrates there, it will drip between the two shingles.

I looked at one yesterday that really wants them, but he has a 2.75/12 pitch. Im probably going to tell him I wont do it, even though Metro says they are good down to a 2.5/12.

Ive put a couple other bids out there too, but no takers yet. They all went asphalt.

It may take awhile, but keep at it. This is a product that will put you in a different class. Less competition more profit.

How big is the area of the 2.75 pitch?