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Define Lowballer

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December 17, 2008 at 1:28 a.m.

SteeleRoofing

What is your definition of a lowballer?

Should all legit roofers be expected to stay in a certain price range?

If a contractor works to reduce his costs but still offers a good roof, but at a markedly lower price than you, is he a lowballer?

When in a>>>

December 18, 2008 at 1:34 p.m.

Anarchist

When I first started out 25 yrs ago , I wood have been considered a lowballer. I didn't know any better. But you can bet yur britches I lernt as I went along. Experiencewise and moneywise.>>>

December 18, 2008 at 1:30 p.m.

Anarchist

Hay John , good post. This perfectly fits the ones in my neck of the woods.>>>

December 18, 2008 at 12:54 p.m.

kegolliday

Ditto. Well put.>>>

December 17, 2008 at 10:17 p.m.

kgrampp

so people talk about lowering costs: most low ballers do lower their costs on jobs by doing things illegally such as avoiding certian taxes, payroll and others by doing all in cash(resd). i know guys around here who on a 50 sq steep 1 layer tear off that>>>

December 17, 2008 at 7:40 p.m.

SteeleRoofing

tinner666 wrote: [quote]

I know others that if I see them at a supplier, I can, and have!, tell them I bidded such and such address at $x,xxx. They would run over and bid $200. to 300. less. (I do this on purpose if i don't want the job or don't>>>

December 17, 2008 at 5:04 p.m.

tinner666

A few of my contractor friends have the where-with-all to purchase by the semi load and bypass all suppliers. I and others can't compete with them on price. I do not consider them lowballers. They're not. But, I have gotten many of their jobs because t>>>

December 17, 2008 at 5:02 p.m.

SteeleRoofing

I wonder if Joe's Five & Dime said Woolworth was a lowballer. Or if Woolworth thought Krege was a lowballer. Or if Kresge though Sam Walton was a lowballer.>>>

December 17, 2008 at 4:57 p.m.

Slick

Hi,

What he said was true.

The lowballers were the ones who lowered their price to match yours. Without being able to lower their price and stay in business.>>>

December 17, 2008 at 4:13 p.m.

SteeleRoofing

Lefty wrote: [quote]Hi Roofguy,

There are jobs that we know we can not do efficiently enough to give a competive price.

This is because of labor issues mostly. Size of the job because of how long it will tie us up. If we have to turn work away t>>>

December 17, 2008 at 3:52 p.m.

wywoody

To me, the scabs, the jack legs and those just bidding ignorant are all just those things. A lowballer is the guy that thinks he may make less by underbidding, but thinks he can make it up with VOLLUME, VOLLUME,VOLLUME, to quote Letterman. A few actuall>>>

December 17, 2008 at 2:43 p.m.

Slick

Hi Roofguy,

There are jobs that we know we can not do efficiently enough to give a competive price.

This is because of labor issues mostly. Size of the job because of how long it will tie us up. If we have to turn work away that we are geared for we pa>>>

December 17, 2008 at 1:42 p.m.

SteeleRoofing

I'm surprised at the answers, and I think I disagree with all of them. What you've described isn't a lowballer, it's a crook (jackleg)!

Usually when everyone disagrees with me, I'm the one who's wrong, so I guess I need to adjust what I thought wa>>>

December 17, 2008 at 3:48 a.m.

iworkoutside

All of the above......>>>

December 17, 2008 at 2:53 a.m.

Slick

Hi,

If a contractor legally reduces his costs, then he is not a lowballer.

This is the rare case for a contractor to markedly lower his price to consistently be low bidder.>>>

December 17, 2008 at 2:12 a.m.

tinner666

Answers 1 and 2 nailed it! What's their prizes?:cheer:>>>


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