A serious time committment

Hey guys i have not posted in a while glad to see things are better than that other forum they had for a while.

I did not have the time to watch entire video but seen enough i palyed through the whole thing in parts.- I have voted republican throughout and consider myself republican but this is total Bullpuckey I am 39 years old - What is the Agenda? Seriously think about it!! people probably should in this case "who is to benifit?" If it is as bad as the video says we have been screwed long ago i just do not see it - I see it as greedy people getting a Conscience. by no means am i saying all greedy people - I stuck behind Bush just as i will Obama if you all remember me sticking up for him and pushing for MCain. Now that Obama is in we need to stand behind him he has turned the auto company down a couple times has also tried getting back our money from AIG by taxing the crap out of the bonuses. I like him i also see no other way to bring us out of this easily - 2 people on my block lost their homes because they refinanced too much - the 2 biggest jobs i have had lined up for spring have been put on hold due to negligent spending by the homeowners

heres the deal Bush and our leadership the past 8-10 years made things too easy put responsibilty in the hands of Americans. Let banks borrow money to whoever they want - so homeowners and everybody borrows the money cause they can - not realizing once the money is gone they have no real way to pay it back. so whos to blame the people who borrowed the money irresponsibly not having jobs -- or the banks who borrowed the money to people who had no job - or our government for allowing it to happen? I would say all of the above!! what can be controlled and how to stop this you ask - people will unfortunately stay greedy and so will banks so our only option here is to pay the piper - Whos generation is running things now the free wheelin 70's "take things now while you still can it will be gone tommorrow" "Dont leave cash on the table" "business is business" bad thinking / Judgement. Sorry to say it may even get worse wait another 10 years the 80's "something for nothing crowd" runnin things maybee the 90's generation will bring our morals back at least the computer geeks can reason right and wrong.

Sorry for the rant i am fightin to keep what i have at the moment - The amount of people i have talked to recently they are all greedy want to pocket money coming from ins companies - in no way shape or form do they think it should be their responsibilty to pay for their property. And the people who borrowed money to buy them big fancy houses overpriced are copping out because they feel they got ripped off now that their house is worth nothing so they blame everyone but themselves for their purchase.

Heres a link to what the writer/director of this film believes in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)

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The "wacko" seems to be more on-the-money every day. I was fence sitting until yesterday. Now I really do believe that Obama's objective is to go extreme socialism, and this video makes more sense than anything I've heard in years.

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I feel compelled to take an in-between position regarding conspiracies. They do exist and we know they exist because we all engage in them to some degree; the human mind turns that way quite naturally, especially if unchecked by ethical restraint. An organized fox hunt is a conspiracy and a very bad one if you consider it from the fox's angle. It's all a question of degree (as we all already know) and some conspiracies are much more powerful and injurious than others. There are different ways of concealing the truth from others and they are neither all bad nor destructive. Some are even good and generous. I'm sure there are a lot of bankers who think tradesmen conspire to rip them off. After all, bankers are human and know the potential exists merely by looking in the mirror. Tradesmen conspire to keep other people out of the trades, or to keep other tradesmen out of the upper echelons of the trades. Monopolies are all conspiracies. The whole concept that something is "too big to fail" breeds a mutant form of conspiracy. So does the concept "so big we need to join forces and bring it down." Now I'm not sure what Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Lincoln, Kennedy, & Wilson (to name just a short list) had in common as personalities, other than that they all were former presidents, but they all expressed a strong dislike for a privately-owned "federal" bank that profited from the printing and control of our national currency. Anyone who thinks the "Fed" is the United States of America is not working with quality raw materials to construct his point of view. Those of us in the roofing business have some pretty touchy notions about roofing. The rest of the world doesn't really care a whole lot, except that they have a little bit of what we're selling. Money on the other hand is a touchy subject with everyone, and those who make it their industry are hanging onto a lightning rod. Eventually they will be struck and that's what they get for standing there. If they conspire even to hide, they eventually get too greedy and make serious mistakes and that is just the way it is. The risk they take. I've known some wonderful people in banking, but it's very easy for them to slip into the permanent irrevocable inability to make an honest living.>>>

I like your style natty, straight enough for me, I got a couple of questions though. Why do you say conspiracy theories are for small minds? Are you suggesting there was never anything nefarious about JFK, 911, Lady Di, etc. Assuming we all end up in some kind of mad max scenario as opposed to being completely obliterated in a nuclear war, what do you see the currency of choice being if indeed there is one. The only one I can think of is water but I think we may always have a limited supply of even that.

Mike, I don't know much about Celente, I do know that ALL these talking heads make predictions, and the ONLY ones that are recalled are the ones that come about..........just sayin'........ >>>

The thing about financial forecasting is that those in the know have already made their move and the dabblers are left to take the losses. Sorta like musical chairs only the pros are one step ahead. You can't eat gold and in a real disaster, is pretty much worthless.>>>

I checked out that sight Vaa. Wow. I'd say both would appeal to the same crowd.

The movie is the updated Illuminati, New World Order, Secret Society blather.>>>

There was an article in the local paper last week about an owner of a bed and breakfast who had their line of credit interest rate increased to 18% from 7%

This kind of reminds me of what happened in the early 80's.>>>

seen-it-all,

I agree, and fortunately started buying gold some years ago.

A former classmate is at a top logistical and diagnostic position in loss prevention, asset managment and trend forcasting in a large banking group. It's a pretty serious job. Her and I were talking a couple weeks ago about things and she put me on to Gerald Celente. She said "This guy makes a lot of sense. Everything he has predicted has been true. I'm seeing more of this come to light and I'm getting nervous. I want out of banking. Something isn't right."

I thought she was sort of nuts.

Then I see this video, and he's in it.

Then yesterday the government basically fires the ceo of GM, and starts passing out orders.

Today, I went to my own bank to renew the line of credit that I havent used in 10 years, and I'm told that for the first time ever, I need to sign a personal guarantee also. I start asking my banker about some of this stuff. She also agrees, and says some of this is making a lot of sense given current occurances.

Considering that this vid was released almost 2 months ago, and it certainly wasn't put together in 20 minutes, I think dismissing it as foolishness is foolishness itself.>>>

I thought it was a heavy handed, clumsy example of propaganda.

The rapidly changing shots, the shifts in the musical score, the appeal to emotion.

The tip off that you have been affected by propaganda is that you have more "feelings" about what you have been exposed to and few "thoughts." Also it would be difficult to summarize in a linear, logical way what you have seen.>>>

Conspiracy theories are for small minds. Alex Jones is a buffoon with nothing better to conjure up than witch hunts and regurgitate lunatic fringe commentary from the '30s. He is just as much a fascist as the ones at whom he points fingers.

Financiers figured out a long time ago that it is much more profitable to finance projects than to actually do them. That doesn't mean that they are some how pulling the strings of world leaders nor are they taking over the world.>>>

Good clip. I've been listening to Alex Jones and Gerald Celente for the past couple of years on Coast To Coast with George Noory so I've heard most of this information before. I believe it, most probably won't until it is too late.

If you have any spare cash, buy gold or silver bullion, the real deal, not a piece of paper saying that you own it. Put it somewhere safe where the government can't take it under the guise that it is now illeagal to own it like they have done in the past.

Food is another good thing to buy as it is going to increase in price as well as be in short supply in the near future.

Junior gold mining companies that are going into production in the next 6-12 months are a good bet. Some that are now trading around 20 cents a share will be worth 10 times that amount within a year.

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I watched it this afternoon. Entertaining. It's was very interesting to see how they weaved events together to make them all seam connected.>>>

Me too. Also said u can download or buy the dvd.>>>

Jed,

fear not. i think you'll find it very interesting. it's really not so much about about obama.>>>

Load? It should be streaming, no?>>>